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Old 11-11-2012, 07:22 PM   #1
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Why not have a little fun now that the 2012 elections are over?
Sure, there's mid-terms coming in a year or two (depending on what it is), but it's the presidential race that gets all or panties twisted.

I figured I'd start a thread for this stuff since i've seen it creeping into other threads and how it could easily derail shit.
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2016... my presidential prediction:
(Assuming Hillary decided to run instead of bowing out of politics.)

Clinton/Castro vs. Christie/Rubio

Hillary has a ton of experience under her belt at this point, meaning she wouldn't need an old hand as her Veep (like Obama with Biden).
This leaves her open to picking someone to encourage the base that the Democratic party has inherited.
Not long ago a ticket of a female presidential candidate and a hispanic veep would've been laughable at best.
After Obama broke the "white guy" barrier, I think people see anything as possible.
(It also helps that Hillary isn't young and pretty, forcing her likability to be based more on her abilities and ideas.)
Then there's Castro who is good looking and charming, adding the "poster on the wall" factor to the ticket.

(Of course, from everything Hillary is saying, she won't be running in 2016. Castro would still be a likely candidate for the ticket, but I'm not sure who else would be on there... I'd love to see Cory Booker up there, but not sure if he has the experience needed yet to reach that high.)

On the other side, there's Chris Christie, with his no-nonsense attitude and "take it to the people" style of governing (like his weekly call-in show on the radio).
After Mitt's flip-flop-fail, Christie could be a welcome change as a candidate who's straight forward... not to mention being more able to connect to the everyman.
Having Rubio as his veep is an obvious reach for the Latino vote, plus he tows the party line.
Of course, he's more moderate on immigration issues... but that seems to be an area where the GOP will look to lean back to the center on and may be more of a boon than a bust for him.



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Don't you read the internets? There's won't be an election in 2016. Obama will declare himself President for Life, confiscate all the guns in the country and make abortions not only government-paid but mandatory.
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I doubt we'll see much change in the political candidate arena. I do believe the Democrats will get a 'whuppin in 2016, because I really don't see anyone on the Democratic side who can equal Obama's ability to rally so many different demographics. The Republicans put up a turkey of a candidate this cycle, and they *still* got within 2.5% of winning the popular vote.

Republicans, from my observations, put priority on party affiliation when voting. Democrats are more influenced by the worth of their candidate...they'll not support a weak nominee. This is why Bush won over Kerry...and why it took shenanigans and a Florida re-count to put him over Al Gore in 2000. Never underestimate the power of charisma, which Obama has loads of.

I don't see anyone in the Democratic party with half of Obama's "roll up our sleeves and let's get to work" presence. And without that advantage, the Republicans could put up a monkey reading out of a phone book in the debates...and we'd have the first simian President.

[EDIT: Heck, humans are simians, too. Okay, okay...the 1st banana-eating President. Nono, that's racist. I know! The first President to sling his own shit! Nono, too Republican....]
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The Republicans put up a turkey of a candidate this cycle, and they *still* got within 2.5% of winning the popular vote.
That's because Republicans are such closed-minded, narrow-sighted twats that they would still vote their party line if they were to put up a literal, feathered, gobbling turkey as their candidate.

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Clinton seems like a natural choice, one they cannot say has no experience.
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The Dem field is frozen until Clinton decides. If she does run, I predict Deval Patrick as her running mate. I think Sherrod Brown would be a better team to provide a midwest ying to her northeast yang, and labor/blue collar to balance her popularity on the foreign front but haven't seen him on the national stage yet.

I see Rubio as the forerunner for the Repubs paired with Christie as VP.

The more immediate speculation surrounds changes to Obama's cabinet. What say you?

I'll start. Secretary of State: Kerry or Rice

I think O prefers Rice to protect Kerry's spot in the senate but that depends on how she fares through the Bengazi investigation.

Colin Powell would be a bold choice.
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My eyes weren't focusing properly and I read that as "confiscate all the gurus in the country." Which prompted me to say to myself, "Now there's a thought..."
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I'm assuming you are talking about Mayor Julián Castro, but you are aware he has a twin brother Congressman Joaquín Castro...
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Powell in State would be hawt!
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Kerry's name is being floated for Secretary of Defense.

Attorney general: Patrick Deval or Jennifer Granholm?

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Today, no general wants to find his name in a sentence that includes hawt.

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I'm assuming you are talking about Mayor Julián Castro, but you are aware he has a twin brother Congressman Joaquín Castro...
Might seem a like pandering for the hispanic vote to start talk about him for the 2016 ticket before he's even taken office.
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They were talking about him, calling him (Julián) a "rising star" right after he spoke at the DNC.
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Julian, yes. Joaquin hasn't taken office yet. damn twins.
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He's (Joaquín) the new Congressman elect, so, soon!
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I say we avoid all this in-fighting and nonsense and use Lewis' method of picking the next president.

Can't be much worse than if Romney won.

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I wouldn't mind seeing her taking up the AG role, solely based on her DNC performance alone.
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What a difference a few years make!

We now know Kerry ended up as Secretary of State.
Loretta Lynch is waiting to be confirmed as AG.
Chris Christie has gone from "straight talker" to "asshole, bully", not to mention corrupt/inept governor and least likely to get the Republican nomination.

Now we know Hillary Clinton will be throwing her hat into the nomination process for Dems.
But, it looks like Bernie Sanders could be jumping in as well... as long as he sees enough support for it.
(He mentioned this on Larry Wilmore, last night!)

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Hey, you know what's funny?
I may end up getting it right on the Dems side.

Julian Castro looks like the most likely candidate for a VP for Hillary.
Granted, I'm hoping Bernie Sanders gets the nomination... although I have no idea who he'd pick as veep.


On the Republican side... who knows at this point?!?
It could end up Bush/Walker or Walker/Carson or any number of combinations.
The only one I think I can safely call is Rand Paul not getting anything and Trump doing his same ol "I'm running... SIKE".
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The Republicans are a clown car. More nominees keep pouring out.

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Hillary. There's a whole country full of people, but apparently only Hillary can be the democrat nominee. Only Hillary. Hillary is it because Hillary is it. We have to have Hillary and only Hillary because we have to have Hillary and only Hillary. That's all you need to know. It is because it is.

This is part of why I consider politics to be a waste of time.

It really doesn't have anything to do with us, anyway. "They" decide who they want, and we get to pick from those two. Maybe.
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The only thing better would be that "they" decide we can have either Hillary or Jeb. Then in a few years, we can have Chelsea or some Bush kid. Because why? Because we do, and that's all you need to know, plebe.

There are certain people who are anointed to the crown to properly rule us lessers, who can't be expected to as much as know the proper way to wipe our butts, and the sooner you understand your place, the better.

It isn't all dynasties, of course, but it always has very little to do with us.
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It may seem like Dems are only being given the choice of Hillary, but Bernie Sanders is coming up strong from the rear.
There's a large wing of the Dems that are not thrilled about Hillary and would much rather have Sanders as our nominee.
I'm in the Bernie camp, personally.

Jeb is also not a definite shoe-in.
Right now Scott Walker and Marco Rubio hold really good chances.

For all I know we could end up seeing "Walker/Rubio" vs "Sanders/O'Malley".


And it would have more to do with "us" if more people would get out and vote (especially in mid-terms) and be involved in politics along the way.
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I'd kinda like to have a president NOT named Bush or Clinton
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I'm in total agreement.
I mean, I'll still vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination, since I'd rather have any of the Democrats running for the nom than any of the Republicans that're aiming for it.

But I'm really hoping we get Bernie Sanders for our candidate.
That guy is awesome!!
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I was being sarcastic but in all seriousness what are his chances? Barely even minimal. I have more important things to worry about

As for Trump, doesn't surprise me at all. If done right campaigns can be very profitable for the candidate

Trump... lmao... what a maroon!
He's already lost...
- Univision (no longer showing Miss USA)
- the Mexican contestant from Miss Universe.
- Cheryl Burke and Thomas Roberts as hosts of Miss USA.
- Macy's (clothing line)
- NBC (celebrity apprentice)

The only place he's doing well is in the Republican presidential primary polls.
Where, somehow, he's in second place.
SECOND PLACE!
Granted, it's not so surprising when you realize that Ben Carson is in third.
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You measure success differently than he does. I bet he made money off all of those
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Well, he sold the rights to show Miss USA to Reelz.
For a fraction of the normal cost, at $100,000.
So, he definitely lost money there.

Also, Serta has now dropped his line of mattresses.
Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim cancels a television project with Trump.
Farouk Systems, which makes hair care products including BioSilk and CHI, withdrew its sponsorship of Trump projects.
The PGA Tour, LPGA, PGA of America, and USGA all distanced themselves from Trump, saying his comments on immigration were "inconsistent with ... an inclusive and welcoming environment," according to the Golf Channel.
And New York City officials are reviewing the city's contracts with him.

I'm not sure what his long game is, but I honestly don't think he planned on losing all of his big name deals.
Nor do I see how it could be part of a long game to make money.
Not that he won't do all he can to turn it around.

He's obviously banking on the froth-mouthed, conservative base eating up his tripe and making it worth it in some way.
And it appears to be working in his favor in Republican primary polls where he's holding a steady second place... but in the general election he'd be a laughing stock.
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Looks like I missed one... NASCAR.
They have changed their venue and will not be using the Trump resort they had previously been using.

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It is awesome.

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There's another Republican debate tonight.
Trump has been slipping in the polls with BEn Carson taking the lead... not that he's any better.
(And is easily worse in several ways.)

Look for Marco Rubio to try to pull further ahead with tonight's debate.
And Trump will most likely whine and insist that anything that says he isn't winning is untrustworthy and garbage.
Fiorina will try to be relevant again, but I doubt she'll get any traction at this point.
Christie will pretend he's a contender and try talking tough... but Trump has pretty much out-Christied Christie, at this point.

Oh yeah... and there's some guy with the last name "Bush"... he'll probably keep insisting that his brother kept us safe and try to appeal to the far right, while still trying to stay true to a message that the Latino population will like.
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Woops, I missed commenting on the recent Republican debate, from Tuesday night.
Not much to report on.
In fact, it's pretty easy to sum up:

Pretty much everybody told lies, some more than others.
Also, most of them insisted they were the bestest and others on the stage sucked for some reason or another.

But hey, Trump has Putin's respect apparently.

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Well, here we are... just over 3 years since this thread was started and now officially in 2016!
So, let's take stock of where we are today.


Republicans

Dropped out:
Perry, Walker, Jindal, Graham, Pataki

Still running:
Trump, Rubio, Fiorina, Cruz, Christie, Carson, Bush, Paul, Kasich, Huckabee, Gilmore, Santorum


Who I predict will drop out next: Paul, Kasich, Huckabee, Gilmore, Santorum
Who I predict will be the top three: Trump, Cruz and either Rubio or Christie



Democrats

Dropped out: Lessig, Webb, Chafee

Still running: Sanders, Clinton, O'Malley

Obviously it's a much smaller field on the Dem side and will come down to Sanders or Clinton.
Poor O'Malley hasn't even qualified to get on the ballot in Ohio.

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Overall speculation

Recent news has Trump leaning towards Ted Cruz as a running mate, which would be a smart move for him.
Such a ticket would represent corporate, religious and extremist interests, which is basically what the Republican party is these days.
Of course, if Trump doesn't get the nomination, we could see something like a Christie/Ernst ticket... giving the ticket a nod to both urban and rural constituencies.

As for the Democrats, while Hillary is still strong in many areas, Bernie is polling stronger in general election match-ups.
There's a chance Hillary will win Iowa, but New Hampshire looks to be a lock for Sanders.
If Hillary gets the nomination, we already know it will most likely end up as a Clinton/Castro ticket.
But I'm not sure what happens if Sanders gets the nom... could end up with Sanders/Warren (if she's up for it), but could also end up with Sanders/Webb for all I know... which would strengthen Bernie's call to Republicans to join him.


Whatever is going to happen, we'll know significantly more by the end of next month.
Hell, we'll know a lot more just by the middle of next month.

It's gonna get pretty interesting from here on out!
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Hey, I just made this a little earlier tonight.
Figured I'd share it here and this thread seemed like just the nook to stuff my cranny into.

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Looks like Hillary is winning the Iowa caucus.
By, like, less than 1%!

700 to 695 votes.
50% to 50% (as it goes).


But Sanders campaign says 90 precincts were improperly staffed and need to be verified.
Iowa Dem Party says they were staffed and they're in the process of trying to contact precinct captains.

So... who knows...
Whatever happens, not a bad night for Bernie and Hillary gets a little relief before New Hampshire.
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Well, the final result for Iowa was that Hillary won... by 0.25%
So, technically a win, but a historically narrow one.

And right now I have MSNBC on, watching the results from New Hampshire.
Currently, 86% of results are in and Bernie is winning by 21% (60% Sanders - 39% Clinton).

On the other side, there was an interesting development with Kasich taking 2nd place!
They have 88% of the results in and Trump is winning with 35% and Kasich is in 2nd with 16%.

The fucked up part is that New Hampshire has a 10% rule.
As in, if a candidate gets less than 10% of the vote, they get no delegates and the ones they would have gotten, go to the winner instead.
So, if you voted for Christie, Fiorina, Carson, Paul or Huckabee... your vote goes to Trump.


To be honest, I would love to see the general election end up with Kasich and Sanders as the nominees.
I think the debates between them would be smart, intellectual debates that are respectful of each other.
I don't know that it would go that way between any other match-ups.



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Well, the Dem Caucus in Nevada is today!
(And the Rep primary in South Carolina, too!)

I expect Nevada to be close, hopefully with Sanders edging out the win.
For the Republicans, I imagine we could see someone drop out after the results are in from today.
Maybe...


In the meantime, I made an updated version of the Bernie Gif I posted a couple posts ago:

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Well, the Dem Caucus in Nevada is today!
(And the Rep primary in South Carolina, too!)

I expect Nevada to be close, hopefully with Sanders edging out the win.
For the Republicans, I imagine we could see someone drop out after the results are in from today.
Maybe...


In the meantime, I made an updated version of the Bernie Gif I posted a couple posts ago:

THAT...is completely awesome.
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THAT...is completely awesome.
Thanks

If I had a Twitter account, I'd be slathering it around town.
But I don't, so the best I can do is post it to forums and shit and slap it on my G+ page.

But if you, or anyone, wants to spread it like warm peanut butter, please... feel absolutely free to do so!
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