I figured we probably need some topics here besides the one announcing that we can make threads in this new sub-forum. So, places to hole up during the ZA (not to be confused with the stupid nick-name for pizza)?
My top choice:
Aircraft Carrier - out at sea (not anywhere too tumultuous though)
Large amount of room for food storage and sleeping quarters. Not easy for zombie hordes to swim, though they may lazily float towards the carrier. Could also be transportation to safe harbors.
My second choice:
Superstore - Preferably in a less populated area.
Lots of canned goods and food items. Clothing, necessities, etc.. Tear apart some of the (metal) shelving and use hardware dept. tools to go bolt that shit into the walls to cover all doors and windows. Rooftop access and sporting goods department make for a good match as well. (Plus, nobody needs to known how to pilot a freaking aircraft carrier)
Oddly enough, while driving through Manhattan today I made the observation that I would, when the Z.A. comes, entrench myself in one of the many fabulous apartments of the Super Rich by which we are surrounded but, alas, never invited to visit.
They are no more insecure than any other random apartment and, given that I would not last long, would allow me to live in the opulent surroundings that I should have, until said End of Days. Further, my last meals would consist of Champagne, caviar, pâté and other various tasty delicacies and my wardrobe consist of the finest that the last of the human race could have Chinese prisoners to delicately render into Haute Couture.
Go out with style, I say.
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Aircraft carrier. Zombie fish need not apply. Not even zombie sharks or zombie whales. Well, maybe zombie whales. And zombie octopus. And zombie leviathan or Kraken. Zombie ghost ships? Zombie pirates? FUCK!
ZOMBIE FUCKING PIRATES!!!
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Lots of canned goods and food items. Clothing, necessities, etc.. Tear apart some of the (metal) shelving and use hardware dept. tools to go bolt that shit into the walls to cover all doors and windows. Rooftop access and sporting goods department make for a good match as well. (Plus, nobody needs to known how to pilot a freaking aircraft carrier)
YOUR TURN!
What will you do when the electricty goes out? Have you ever been in a superstore with no light? They has no windows.
Are you just going to throw your waste off the roof when the water stops running? Waste is going to include human waste, produce (veggies), and meats and frozen fish. Omg, dude. The smell.
The only food stuffs that are going to be worth anything after a week are your canned goods and until the small animals realize there's feasting to be had in your darkened store, your dry grains/cereals/whatnot.
Also, everyone's going to be running to the superstore in a Zombie apocalypse. Even in less populated areas.
You wanna be walled in with a bunch of smelly people who've had nothing to eat but canned beans and vienna sausages and who have not showered?
And what if someone you're walled in with is infected.
Pretty soon the whole place is one giant, stinking blender o' zombies and you're holed up in a dome tent on the highest shelf you can get to, hoping they can't smell you 'cause it's pitch black and you're scared and you're going to die there, starved to death because you didn't haul up enough canned goods and water.
Don't even get me started on the whole 'you have no right to be there in the first place' thing.
This plan, it is flawed.
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What will you do when the electricty goes out? Have you ever been in a superstore with no light? They has no windows.
That part is easy. Flashlights, lanterns, and so on. Plenty of batteries to last a decent amount of time. Lighting is fairly easy to compensate for, especially if the living quarters are all in the same area.
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Are you just going to throw your waste off the roof when the water stops running? Waste is going to include human waste, produce (veggies), and meats and frozen fish. Omg, dude. The smell.
Waste will always be a problem in a closed environment, but actually... throwing it off the roof (or launching it with some device made a la MacGuyver style) isn't a bad idea. At least it wouldn't be inside and it may discourage zombies from thinking there's living things around... or discourage more people from trying to get in.
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The only food stuffs that are going to be worth anything after a week are your canned goods and until the small animals realize there's feasting to be had in your darkened store, your dry grains/cereals/whatnot.
Yeah, I was thinking mainly canned goods. Grains/cereals could be gathered and kept in a tarp that's strung up or something. But also a good idea to just use that stuff first. Anything that goes bad... off to the roof catapult!!
You could also use some garden supplies to grow fresh food on the roof.
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Also, everyone's going to be running to the superstore in a Zombie apocalypse. Even in less populated areas.
You wanna be walled in with a bunch of smelly people who've had nothing to eat but canned beans and vienna sausages and who have not showered?
THIS is the biggest problem of all. I can reason away almost every point, except this one. I was thinking of a small group of people, but you're right. It would be almost impossible to claim a superstore for just that small group. It's a hotbed for violence, disease and fatal mishaps.
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And what if someone you're walled in with is infected.
Pretty soon the whole place is one giant, stinking blender o' zombies and you're holed up in a dome tent on the highest shelf you can get to, hoping they can't smell you 'cause it's pitch black and you're scared and you're going to die there, starved to death because you didn't haul up enough canned goods and water.
This part would have been mitigated by my "small group" idea. You make sure nobody is infected, if they turn out to be infected after the doors/windows are blockaded... ROOF CATAPULT!! hehe
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Don't even get me started on the whole 'you have no right to be there in the first place' thing.
This plan, it is flawed.
In the Z.A., "no right to be here" doesn't apply to stores. You may be able to argue the point, but in reality... the people who own it are probably outside trying to get to your brains. Plus, if it's Wal-Mart, fuck them anyway.
This plan, yes... it is flawed.
(The waste issue would be easily handled if we were on an aircraft carrier. Not that I condone dumping in the ocean, but yeah... in that case, I'd throw the waste overboard.)
My house, for a week or 3. By then, all the people who can make it here made it here (I'm totally at least a dozen other peoples' backup plan), whatever control the government's able to exert is known and realized, and the highways choked with fleeing yahoos will have either been cleared up or clearly isn't going to be.
That's when I pack up the supplies, carefully make my way down the staircase I destroyed on Z Day, and see how far my little Honda makes it on side streets before I ditch that and find me the nearest farm house.
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You know, I wonder if colder temperatures would slow down zombies? I'm guessing they could still be frozen if the temp is lowered enough, so I imagine the further north you go, the slower they would be. This matters more if you're choosing a grounded holdout, instead of being out at sea.
On an aircraft carrier, you'd be able to chill out wherever you like (just not too close to land).
I actually ponder such things while at work. If there is a Breakout while I am at work, I plan to hole up in the freezer. Will turn it off first, of course. I can survive in there quite securely until the horde thins enough for me to escape. Plus, I can barter for some guns with the supplies from in there.
You know, I wonder if colder temperatures would slow down zombies? I'm guessing they could still be frozen if the temp is lowered enough, so I imagine the further north you go, the slower they would be. This matters more if you're choosing a grounded holdout, instead of being out at sea.
On an aircraft carrier, you'd be able to chill out wherever you like (just not too close to land).
But, I know zombies can't swim but wouldn't they float? Or at least some? (some people float naturally). So wouldn't some make it to the air craft hide out? And you would have to dock at some point to replenish supplies.
But, I know zombies can't swim but wouldn't they float? Or at least some? (some people float naturally). So wouldn't some make it to the air craft hide out? And you would have to dock at some point to replenish supplies.
Yeah, dead bodies (depending on their state) would tend to float. But that's fine. It's an aircraft carrier, they wouldn't be able to just climb up the side of it or anything.
As for resupplying, it would be awesome if whatever group I was with included a helicopter pilot. Snag a few of those and park them on the carrier. Then, no docking needed. Just fly in, grab supplies, fly out. Yes, the noise would attract the zombies. But you're in a chopper, find a remote place where it'll take them awhile. Or, find a secure roof to land on.
If we didn't have flight of any kind, then yeah... we'd need to either dock, or more likely, take a small speedboat or something. Plus, there would easily be room to try to grow a garden in order to cut down on that need to go out.
Other than that, there would be enough room on the carrier for an immense amount of supplies. Water could be collected from the ocean and used for a variety of things, plus it could be de-salinated and used for general purposes.
This plan would be best if there was a good amount of time to prepare. Most likely that wouldn't be the scenario, so I would need to have plans for an immediate situation... as well as interim plans and finally, try to figure out a way to get to an aircraft carrier.
scrim had it right when he mentioned the staircase. That's my most immediate emergency plan. Grab everything, go upstairs, destroy staircase. The fact that I have no decent means of destroying said staircase is besides the point. :P
I actually ponder such things while at work. If there is a Breakout while I am at work, I plan to hole up in the freezer. Will turn it off first, of course. I can survive in there quite securely until the horde thins enough for me to escape. Plus, I can barter for some guns with the supplies from in there.
You take that whole "Cake or Death?" thing WAYyyyy too seriously, girlie.
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But, I know zombies can't swim but wouldn't they float? Or at least some? (some people float naturally). So wouldn't some make it to the air craft hide out? And you would have to dock at some point to replenish supplies.
An aircraft carrier is 20 stories tall. The zombies would have a very tough time climbing the sides to board her. Also, as long as you had fishing line, some dirt on the landing deck, and some veggie seeds, you could be in very good shape. Of course, a helicopter would be even better- swoop in, pillage, swoop back out.
I think of this sort of stuff all the time at work too Kita Sometimes I get so freaked out I order stuff from survival sites.
I don't think I want to be confined in an area that I can't easily exit from so aircraft carriers, submarines, cruise ships and super marts are all out for me. I really am not a people person. Besides I'm more afraid of the government and the evil assholes and mercenaries that are going to be running around ruling the world than I am the zombies.
I'd stay home - I'd put up my hurricane shutters which would make it pretty darn difficult to get into my house. I currently have a pantry that provided hubby and I were careful, would give us food for about 6 months.
Because of hurricanes I have ample supplies of solar powered stuff, solar recharger, batteries, a generator (though I'd not use that much), lye (for waste disposal), propane for cooking, pharmaceuticals, plants and seeds, water proof stuff, water purification stuff and a lot of other stuff you'd need if a hurricane really beat the crap out of you.
Plus I live on a canal so that offers me an exit by land and an exit by boat, not to mention a supply of water. (I have fishing gear and a zodiac in my closet that hubby is completely unaware of).
I'm armed and I know how to make stuff (anarchist cook book) (sometimes it pays to be a hippie) so when it comes time to exit I can create diversions and traps to get past the zombies to get hubby, the cats and I out of the house.
When it comes time to exit the homestead, if it's by land I'd put the bikes in the car and move north into Georgia and Alabama and probably end up on my aunts farm. If it's by boat I'd inflate the zodiac and find myself a sturdy fishing craft no one's using and load that up with supplies and bikes.
Oh and the reason hubby does not know about the zodiac is because when I mentioned it might be handy in the case of hurricane flooding he thought I was nuts.
That was of course, before hurricane Katrina.
Oh one last comment, while in the house, I'd make sure that from the outside, it looked like the house had already been ransacked and invaded by the zombies.
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Yay! I am almost always looking at my Z.A escape places.
Unfortunately where I work and where I sleep are both horrible places. I work in a sporting goods where house and my house has a lot of windows. I would love to say nuclear bomb shelter or something similar but rationally I don't think I could ever make it to one. You couldn't pay me to go to a super store, I might as well try to sleep with a zombie - at least that would be partially fun before I die. If its wide spread then I would go to my friends grandmas farm. Its flat enough that you could set up shop, theres tons of animals, a river and a lake, wood stove, a decent garden, and of course hillbilly neighbors! We'd be all set. Honestly, I think her grandparents are geared up for the end of the world right now so its the most appropriate place to go.
Yay! I am almost always looking at my Z.A escape places.
Unfortunately where I work and where I sleep are both horrible places. I work in a sporting goods where house and my house has a lot of windows. I would love to say nuclear bomb shelter or something similar but rationally I don't think I could ever make it to one. You couldn't pay me to go to a super store, I might as well try to sleep with a zombie - at least that would be partially fun before I die. If its wide spread then I would go to my friends grandmas farm. Its flat enough that you could set up shop, theres tons of animals, a river and a lake, wood stove, a decent garden, and of course hillbilly neighbors! We'd be all set. Honestly, I think her grandparents are geared up for the end of the world right now so its the most appropriate place to go.
Just as a pro-tip they aren't psyched up for the ZA, they're just redneck hillbillys. Not that there is much of a difference. Oh, and I'm sure that they'll tell you that the world is going to have the "True Apocalypse" next Saturday. (Read as May 21)
Care to have a beer with me on the 22nd and laugh?
But, I know zombies can't swim but wouldn't they float? Or at least some? (some people float naturally). So wouldn't some make it to the air craft hide out? And you would have to dock at some point to replenish supplies.
Only the fat ones. I don't think most zombies bloat like other dead animals. Maybe they're not air-tight. Maybe it depends on exactly what causes the zombification. Dunno.
As for me, take up arms, load the truck and head deep into the Cascades or Olympics. With a good shelter and enough altitude, I ought to do ok. I don't think the zombies are going to head up that deep into the woods - they'll stay in the more urban areas or areas where there are more fresh brains. The flaw with the plan is that if the ZA happens mid winter, I'm going to have an impossible time getting up high enough and building a good shelter. If it were to happen in June, I could practically have a log cabin and a pet bear named Gentle Ben by the time winter set in, but if it's December, I'm sort of screwed.
Hmmm...think of a contingency...
I could steal a nuclear sub from Bremerton. But I don't know how to drive a nuclear sub, and for all I know, the nuclear sub could have had a leak and caused the outbreak in the first place. I don't know how to fly any sort of aircraft, nor pilot an aircraft carrier.
Maybe I could steal a big ol' sailboat and head for Hawaii or somewhere remote. I could fish for food and come ashore when it was safe to pillage and resupply with stuff like ammo and booze. The boat might have a de-salinator for fresh water. Maybe I could convince Oryx to sunbathe topless. Whooo Hooo! I'm starting to like this idea better than living in the woods like Grizzly Adams.
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The new plan is our apartment. We are on the second floor, ands there is nothing scalable around. Plus, there is a clear view of the front door landing and all windows from the balcony. Would be a perfect place to mow down zombies from. Knock out the stairs, and we would only be accessable by a rope thrown over the side. We also are stocked with enough supplies to last us at least a year. The only concern is water. We would need to do runs for that. By the time our supplies run out, the zombies should have thinned enough for us to scavenge and work on a long term solution in an ideal location (such as mountains where we can grow food and have fresh water, or and island in the middle of nowhere)
Dru, a sporting goods store is a great place to start at though!
Lots of makeshift (and standard) weaponry, not to mention "armor".
I like the idea of going into higher altitudes, especially colder climates.
Although, on top of a plateau may not be bad either?
Just make sure there's no easy way up the sides.
May need some dynamite or something to carve off a section into its own "island", but yeah... I can dig it.
Supplies would be a bitch, but if we dug underground dwelling into the top of the plateau, we could at least get shade and comfortable "housing".
Plus, loud noises would confuse the zombies as much, or instead of, leading them to us... due to the echoes.
Armor maybe, but weapons aren't exactly at mine. They have bats and balls and thats about it. I don't really see a bat as a useful weapon, though it would be kind of fun to pelt zombies from above with baseballs and water bottles :P
I kind of like the idea of a plateau, especially if there was a plane involved. I always thought of a zombie as more of a baser instinct creature who would also use smell as a way to find pray and eventually will get up to us...which is ok cause we have a plane
Plus, it's a great vantage point.
We could have people patrol the edges, picking off any zombies who happen by.
(I want a sniper rifle! No, I do't have any experience with guns! LOL!)
I'm also wondering if being that high up would prevent our smell from traveling through the basin?
I agree with the plane (or two small ones), but would add at least one helicopter.
fuck I live in Zombie land anyway its S.FL
got you ppl beat!
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