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Old 04-11-2010, 03:44 PM   #1
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Question The NSFW Issue (probably NSFW)

Ok, I'm bothering with this now because it's a subject of debate in another thread that has a lot of.... bad feelings, and I think some of that could, maybe, be resolved by a serious look at this issue. Which has been bothering me since Sans told me that when I posted certain pics that someone "reported" it and she had to make the thread NSFW.

I think the problem is that, on the first SC, anything went. The whole forum was NSFW. Some wanted more warning but basically people knew that anything could show up anywhere, it's just the way it was.

Now, here, there are still no rules against posting nsfw pics in any thread. There is no rule that you must make a thread NSFW. There is no way to change a thread with such warning if you did not start it.

But there is a sense that if you do it is somehow wrong and may wind up in a mod's inbox, even though no "rule" was broken and that those of us who do are being somehow inconsiderate and selfish, even though there are no rules or guidelines as to when and where such posting is "acceptable" except in the case of the OP stating it at the start.

I don't want to bother the mods. At the same time, what one person considers rude or inappropriate, another considers amusing or in the spirit of SC, meaning if it upsets you, turn off images and let us have our fun, we don't have to be "grown ups" here. Both points are valid but no one seems to be sure which is the state of things, right now.

I really wish there was some definitive statement one way or the other about this so I don't feel like I'm either being a pain in the ass for the mods or that I'm stifling myself for no good reason, since I don't know what the rules really are. And a lot of people are just assuming them one way or the other, on their own.

Let it be known that I may not be in this thread much.
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My thoughts.

I do want the spirit of SC intact as much as possible. I do realize this isn't the old SC. No way to recapture that moment in time. We're close, no doubt but we have our own dynamics for sure. Some of the people that have been raising the most fuss really have me scratching my head. I certainly don't recall this much whining and bitching back then. C'est la vie. The only thing I'm concerned with is something that might bog down the forum for everybody. I'm not concerned about what somebody's boss may or may not say about SC. You know your own boundaries and what you can and can't get away with. I'm not really YOUR MOM.

I do however find it a bit annoying in a perfectly good thread going on to have it joltingly derailed by say Fester's nutsack. Then again, so easy to just shake head and scroll down.

Amazingly the complaint box hasn't seen a lot of action in 8 months of SCMKII.

Ok I'm done.
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I'm reporting Leck's post as being not helpful :P

This is my issue, really.

Do I have to worry that any time I post a naughty pic in a thread not already marked NSFW I am causing work for mods? Should people assume they have the right to pester mods about such pics?

Cause I dunno what is going on.
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I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say here, but I didn't want to make it seem like I am OKing anything that Io does by my being silent.
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2 days into joining SCII I realized that I'm going to have to watch what I read at work. Then again I'm not on when the boss is around anyway and my coworkers are pervs as well. I already realized this and it didn't bother me because for once I was glad to be able to join a forum that had pretty much an anything goes feeling. I like the adult feeling of the forum, as childish as I act at times. Sometimes whatever is posted is funny, sometimes not but in any event we have the freedom to post either.
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I am a big fan of working at work. I guess maybe if it may be in question you probably shouldn't be surfing the net at work.
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I'm reporting Leck's post as being not helpful :P

This is my issue, really.

Do I have to worry that any time I post a naughty pic in a thread not already marked NSFW I am causing work for mods? Should people assume they have the right to pester mods about such pics?

Cause I dunno what is going on.
Sorry. There are no rules here in that regard, and you shouldn't worry about it. The only work we'll have is once it's noticed, to edit the thread title to include the NSFW tag. If we want to. I tend to ignore a lot of shit. No one should assume anything here. You know what assuming does.
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I don't want this to get into a "what you do at work" thing. More like "what can you expect at SC". Should we *expect* anything goes or expect mods or OP's to make threads NSFW. And if it's not my thread, what do I do, ask a mod first?

This sounds like nitpicking but honestly, if the stance was: don't do it if the thread isn't clearly marked NSFW fine, I'll do that. If not, then stop with the reporting and shaming.
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Ok, what Leck said makes sense to me.

I doubt that will be the last word but honestly, I realized I was feeling either hesitant or ashamed if I did certain things because of, well, assumptions.

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I don't want this to get into a "what you do at work" thing. More like "what can you expect at SC". Should we *expect* anything goes or expect mods or OP's to make threads NSFW. And if it's not my thread, what do I do, ask a mod first?

This sounds like nitpicking but honestly, if the stance was: don't do it if the thread isn't clearly marked NSFW fine, I'll do that. If not, then stop with the reporting and shaming.
People can certainly contact us for a NSFW tag. We won't grow fangs and flip out. Post reports with any tinge of tattling or personal bias, tend to make us point and laugh before we hit the delete button.
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I do nothing at work.. and get paid for it *noddles* Wait..isn't there already a thread for that? *chuckles*

Anywho like I said, I like the freedom of posting on this board.
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Ok, I'm bothering with this now because it's a subject of debate in another thread that has a lot of.... bad feelings, and I think some of that could, maybe, be resolved by a serious look at this issue. Which has been bothering me since Sans told me that when I posted certain pics that someone "reported" it and she had to make the thread NSFW.

I think the problem is that, on the first SC, anything went. The whole forum was NSFW. Some wanted more warning but basically people knew that anything could show up anywhere, it's just the way it was.

Now, here, there are still no rules against posting nsfw pics in any thread. There is no rule that you must make a thread NSFW. There is no way to change a thread with such warning if you did not start it.

But there is a sense that if you do it is somehow wrong and may wind up in a mod's inbox, even though no "rule" was broken and that those of us who do are being somehow inconsiderate and selfish, even though there are no rules or guidelines as to when and where such posting is "acceptable" except in the case of the OP stating it at the start.

I don't want to bother the mods. At the same time, what one person considers rude or inappropriate, another considers amusing or in the spirit of SC, meaning if it upsets you, turn off images and let us have our fun, we don't have to be "grown ups" here. Both points are valid but no one seems to be sure which is the state of things, right now.

I really wish there was some definitive statement one way or the other about this so I don't feel like I'm either being a pain in the ass for the mods or that I'm stifling myself for no good reason, since I don't know what the rules really are. And a lot of people are just assuming them one way or the other, on their own.

Let it be known that I may not be in this thread much.
Well, the person who reported that particular thread was more concerned about large images taking up space on their phone because while they WERE cruising SC at work, it was on their phone, so it bogged down the phone. I realize there's no rule, but a warning to people that the thread CONTAINS questionable images is reasonable, I think.

In addition to that, I think some people are griefing SC by posting NSFW images in threads that have nothing to do with whatever the thread is about. That's a little selfish, imo, because it prevents some people from being able to read and while we say everyone is welcome, it does make people feel unwelcome when they've politely requested people don't do that. I think that hits right on the "don't be an asshat" rule.
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There is a complaint box?? XD

Also, I like fester's nuts tyvm. And mulch's too mulch's nuts are old skool classic prom dress, yet fester's nuts are the new, skankier dress that is just as awesome!

Despite their differences, I would wear them both
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like a dress made out of duct tape?
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My thoughts.

I do want the spirit of SC intact as much as possible. I do realize this isn't the old SC. No way to recapture that moment in time. We're close, no doubt but we have our own dynamics for sure. Some of the people that have been raising the most fuss really have me scratching my head. I certainly don't recall this much whining and bitching back then. C'est la vie. The only thing I'm concerned with is something that might bog down the forum for everybody. I'm not concerned about what somebody's boss may or may not say about SC. You know your own boundaries and what you can and can't get away with. I'm not really YOUR MOM.

I do however find it a bit annoying in a perfectly good thread going on to have it joltingly derailed by say Fester's nutsack. Then again, so easy to just shake head and scroll down.

Amazingly the complaint box hasn't seen a lot of action in 8 months of SCMKII.

Ok I'm done.
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Someone asking for a thread to be marked NSFW is actually about the *only* post-reporting that doesn't bug the shit out of me. ;P I personally try to keep an eye on it when I'm around, and add appropriate tags to the thread title whenever I see it happen.

Since you can choose to not display images, avs, signatures, and banners... all the tools are in place to make the forum as safe as you need it to be for your environment. And it's a hell of a lot easier to alter your own experience than it is to try to coax everyone else into altering their behavior to suit your needs.
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Well, the person who reported that particular thread was more concerned about large images taking up space on their phone because while they WERE cruising SC at work, it was on their phone, so it bogged down the phone. I realize there's no rule, but a warning to people that the thread CONTAINS questionable images is reasonable, I think.

In addition to that, I think some people are griefing SC by posting NSFW images in threads that have nothing to do with whatever the thread is about. That's a little selfish, imo, because it prevents some people from being able to read and while we say everyone is welcome, it does make people feel unwelcome when they've politely requested people don't do that. I think that hits right on the "don't be an asshat" rule.
hrm, yeah, that is my problem here, Sans.

"don't make people uncomfortable"

What people, what is their comfort level and being an asshat can be quite amusing to me at times.
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There is a complaint box?? XD

Also, I like fester's nuts tyvm. And mulch's too mulch's nuts are old skool classic prom dress, yet fester's nuts are the new, skankier dress that is just as awesome!

Despite their differences, I would wear them both
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Slightly off topic....do we think people should get prior approval for this sort of comment theft?
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Someone asking for a thread to be marked NSFW is actually about the *only* post-reporting that doesn't bug the shit out of me. ;P I personally try to keep an eye on it when I'm around, and add appropriate tags to the thread title whenever I see it happen.

Since you can choose to not display images, avs, signatures, and banners... all the tools are in place to make the forum as safe as you need it to be for your environment. And it's a hell of a lot easier to alter your own experience than it is to try to coax everyone else into altering their behavior to suit your needs.
Exactimente. Momo has it nailed.
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I don't have an opinion. I don't read SC at work because it's logged. I don't read it much on weekends because I'm too busy. I don't read it much in the evenings because of the kids and lack of time. Whatever Leck decides is ok with me
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Someone asking for a thread to be marked NSFW is actually about the *only* post-reporting that doesn't bug the shit out of me. ;P I personally try to keep an eye on it when I'm around, and add appropriate tags to the thread title whenever I see it happen.

Since you can choose to not display images, avs, signatures, and banners... all the tools are in place to make the forum as safe as you need it to be for your environment. And it's a hell of a lot easier to alter your own experience than it is to try to coax everyone else into altering their behavior to suit your needs.
Well you know, I agree completely.

However the need or desire for NSFW tags kinda makes my opinion moot.

Clearly people do not think that the tools are enough or refuse to use them, or that we shouldn't need them because we shouldn't be posting off topic buttsecks, and we are back at square one.
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Well you know, I agree completely.

However the need or desire for NSFW tags kinda makes my opinion moot.

Clearly people do not think that the tools are enough or refuse to use them, or that we shouldn't need them because we shouldn't be posting off topic buttsecks, and we are back at square one.

I never felt like the NSFW tagging was a hard-and-fast rule, rather an added extra courtesy. I personally don't see the need for it, but don't mind trying to keep them up, if it will help everything run smoother and keep all factions somewhat appeased.
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Old 04-11-2010, 05:16 PM   #35
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The issue is completely lame. You wouldn't surf YOUPORN.COM at work because it has adult content. You wouldn't surf REDTUBE.COM or other forums that have porn and adult content at work so why the difference with SC?

SC MK II is an ADULT playground full of ADULT content and ADULT people who anjoy engaging other ADULTS in ADULT behavior, antics, cheeky fun and usually it degrades into good old fashioned fist swinging and some raunchy lolpics.

Any and all guidelines you would use on any other adult website should be applicable here. IT's not right for all of you whining little bitches to come in here and rake someone over the coals for an avatar picture.

ITS NOT EVEN UNSAFE FOR CABLE TV SO FUCK OFF AND DIE!

That's about all I have to say about it. Fucking crybaby ass people should go hang out with other crybabies at PeeWeesPlayhouse.com and lick Barney the Dinosaur's fucking pussy!



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WAIT A SEC!


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There is a complaint box?? XD

Also, I like fester's nuts tyvm. And mulch's too mulch's nuts are old skool classic prom dress, yet fester's nuts are the new, skankier dress that is just as awesome!

Despite their differences, I would wear them both
Now I see the Mulchness in you.

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I don't think we should browse this forum at work, or at home.
So SC should only be browsed at Starbucks?

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I'll have a double venti mocha latte.... and why not I'd like a side of nipples with that.
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For the first time, I'm using the mobile skin. I can't see a thing...not even bigsig part deux.
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Hey that's sweet it rips out all of the images. Nice find Veng.
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