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Old 11-11-2011, 10:46 PM   #1
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Attachment 1830So I am dabbling in colored pencils the last time it took a lot of time and never thought I would do it again.
I had fun its really like meditation the time you can put into it layering colors.

so there is this and its not quiet complete
picture just taken at night so its not that great
I do need to learn how to photograph colored pencil work in the future.
I also do not mind any constructive criticism at all, if you are so inclined to post.
Only way to get better at something.

I need to let it sit a day or so by Monday and look at it fresh to clean it up and get to the background problem.
I have not a clue.
Leave it white and throw a shadow down.
Color in the real background of the vine these grew on against my whitish stucco wall.

who knows

My one issue has not been drawing but coloring... I have studied what I can out the wazoo on it (I can never stops learning)and know what to do I see what I want to do and then pause.
I really need to work on my pastels a few I started to get the full feel on that.
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I looove color pencils and pastels
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Attachment 1830So I am dabbling in colored pencils the last time it took a lot of time and never thought I would do it again.
I had fun its really like meditation the time you can put into it layering colors.

so there is this and its not quiet complete
picture just taken at night so its not that great
I do need to learn how to photograph colored pencil work in the future.
I also do not mind any constructive criticism at all, if you are so inclined to post.
Only way to get better at something.

I need to let it sit a day or so by Monday and look at it fresh to clean it up and get to the background problem.
I have not a clue.
Leave it white and throw a shadow down.
Color in the real background of the vine these grew on against my whitish stucco wall.

who knows

My one issue has not been drawing but coloring... I have studied what I can out the wazoo on it (I can never stops learning)and know what to do I see what I want to do and then pause.
I really need to work on my pastels a few I started to get the full feel on that.
I love the water drops on the tomatoes and the way you have blended the colors. Beautiful work.

I don't know anything about art, but in the future if you don't want to do a background, I really like the way bright pencils (pastels?) look against colored or black paper with no background.
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I love that color pencil work. It came out really nice.
what brand color pencils did you use?
I wish copic made color pencils
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For now I am using the tried and true prisma's, however I want to try some oil based pencils.
Lyra a less expensive brand is possible or the Faber-Castell Polychromos.
Prismas tend to leave "crumbs" on the paper and they can easily become pushed into the paper making it hard to leave an even layer of color.
I then try and lift it out with an eraser or blade.
The best that is said for light-fastness is Caran d'Ache Luminance Colored Pencils, which means they will fade the least compared to other brands.
for anyone who cares to know that and did not

I did see that Micheal's has more markers now by prisma/Sanford and pushing those.
DickBlick has good deals but still a set of pencils will be 100 bucks maybe after Christmas for me who knows.
I am still working on a tutorial dvd piece of 3 apples on a mat.
These take forever!
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:38 PM   #6
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Post your stuff here and show what you did.
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I did this drawing long ago using Prismacolor pencils; never finished it.



Prolly never will finish it now that I am working in acrylic paint.

It is a meditation to work with colored pencils. Relaxing.

Great work, Morgaine. I look forward to seeing more of your art.
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Lula, that is very nice and look at the skin tones you did.
wow
mat that baby up and frame it
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ugh ugh ugh
I still have to finish that background it will be fast, I know what to do now. I have been working on one very large piece for too long now, a DVD instruction I bought. Issue is I followed step by step everything so I can mimic technique learn then mix it in with whatever I do.
Purposefully following to the T. This lady then drops the ball on key parts and skips to the next and shows you what she is now doing on this or that.
I would have just did a lot of things my own way mixed in with the class then. It was just too late for some things I already laid out thou. The killer is it would not of been my 1st choice in drawing to begin with. I was just excited to have a formal lesson. Please don't get me wrong either, I love this ladies technique I find it similar to my own.
I guess I am just exhausted it's been since I posted this first OP what 2 months now. There are things I want to draw paint on my own but, won't till I finish these two. Testing myself making sure I don't leave unfinished work around like normal. It is just so hard when you have a life and kids to take care of properly. Oh and ppl in my life don't really support my doing art or anything personal for me....
I could just cry.
damn I am so off the hook babbling right now, sorry
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Awww... Morgaine... don't be sorry. This is your thread and you babble as you need.

I understand. I have a couple of unfinished things holding me back. One of my artist friends told me to take a photo of the painting I can't finish. I can't finish it because I am afraid to fuck up one part of the painting I am so pleased with. He said, take a photo so it is preserved as is and then go at it with all kinds of crazy.

Then, using the photo... bring it back to it's original state. Wow.

I still have not done it.

I hope I am part of your life and one you can count among those who support your creating art. You need to do this for you and for your children. It helps make you a better person. It makes you happy. It helps you recreate yourself on a continuous basis. Recreation is essential.

Now I am the one "off the hook babbling" as well.

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Thanks! Here is an article I just read in a magazine for Artist. It is a wonderful read, talking about staying focused and the why's in our society labels of obsession is so negative when there are positive obsessions.
http://www.artcalendar.com/news/2011...ve-obsessions/

Also I am coming off of a little girls sleep over that lasted 2 days and waiting on ppl hand over foot during a big Christmas dinner. One of the quests came down with pneumonia and I may have caught it. Last night after posting I spent my time vomiting and major headache belly ache. I shall see.

My plan is to finish this big project today the last day of 2011,
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I do not have ps so this one is taken from my cell phone as a picture. (or a computer)
There is more red orange towards the bottom that does not show up.
I started and finished this one in the past 4 days!
just a simple pear from an exercise in Alonya Nikelsons cp book. Its a great read btw if you are interested.
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Hah, I thought it was a photo until I scrolled down.
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That is amazing, Morgaine!
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Perfection.

If I saw that in an art fair, I'd buy it. I'm a sucker for little fruit paintings/drawings.
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I tried this on a quality paper of course but, its different its called canvas paper. So it has a linen print weave which is interesting for me I don't like the paper to show through and if it does with this it is the texture of a canvas. I think I will do more on this type. I also have plenty of pastel ground texture paper and boards too. That means it has somewhat of a sandpaper feel to it my only thing is it may eat up the pencils. Some are finer then others so maybe the few that I have that are very fine texture may do!
I did finish my big one except just a tad touch up on the background. I don't have my 'puter so that makes it a bitch to edit from the photo.

thanks guys a lot <3

Elora the still life's of fruit make for good practice with colors and shapes, I never thought it would be for me but I am enjoying it more each time.

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When I do get enough of them out to sell I would have no clue what to price things at. My intentions by next year this time is to mat pieces and slip them into a archival bag for protection. Including a small business card that states the mat is archival along with the paper used and you may want to choose a reg frame or a frame that is archival quality. Then have them out to sell in typical reg frame sizes (so it will be easy to find a frame) all ready matted and you pick your own frame. Framing is just to expensive and a busy endeavor on top of this, besides including a frame has downsides such as a jump in price to sell and people may want to chose there own frame.

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Morgaine, you could look on websites like Etsy to get an idea of what people charge for similar items of the same size.

I just paid $25 for an original acrylic on canvas unframed on Etsy - finished with a matte acrylic varnish. It's only 5" x 5". I thought it was a good price, it's a charming little bird that I thought might look nice in my guest room. The artist did wrap it around wood to stretch it and put a good heavy duty hook on the back so I may not need to even frame it; nice to have the option.
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Morgaine, that's awesome.

I'm very impressed
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So this one is from the dvd lesson I purchased. The one that bugged the crap out of me forever. I was not happy at all with these apples. This is a cell phone snap so you know that drill... Janie Gildow is the teacher of the DVD if you are ever interested in her work. The blue shadows on the background rope place mat is darker when its in front of you, rl.



Then I did these two minis on some sample of a new paper that is sanded by canson. I just called them up and they sent one of every color for free. I highly recommend anyone to call and ask for samples, it rocks! This paper had a fine texture to it may be marble dust they used, idk.
So I tried it out with a few short lessons in that book by Alyona Nickelsen. These are tiny and were quick one day pieces, the grapes on a yellowish tan paper and the bottle on a light blue color paper.
anyway....critique away folks only way I can learn


besides anyone can post what they have done here also you know its not just mine, show us yours
Maybe we can have the thread title changed? Show us your traditional art or something?
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