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Old 04-16-2011, 11:48 PM   #1
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I hear the kindles passed paper backs and hardbacks in sales.

Do you all like them? Do you miss opening the book? Checking the cover... just breathing in the stuff you know you are going to find in the book?

I'm going to grab a rl paper book and go read.
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I love my kindle. It was a gift from my girlfriend's brother, but I appear to have taken posession of it

I don't miss having a real book. that i'm carrying around 40+ book (i stocked up on a lot of the free out of copyright books and have been devouring many) makes up for it

I do wish I had the 3g model, but if you're not without wifi often you should be fine. it's a very minor problem for me, most of the time.
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I love my Kindle...in an almost unnatural way.
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Sans is rarely without her Kindle. I will defer to her to fill you in on the details of their relationship.

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I never thought the paperback would go. It's the near perfect ergonomic item. But the kindle is pretty damn close and you can carry a whole library on it.

I do miss the used book store though. It's just behind fresh baked bread in smell in my opinion. And I worry what the eBook industry is going to do to the book store.

It's also an interesting property rights issue. Completely changed the dynamic of who owns the book you are reading. Artists and book sellers have been saying for year you don't really own the book, you own rights to read the book. While legally that makes sense it was totally rediculous to the reader who had the book in their hand and could sell it, burn it or do anything they wanted to it. The eBook has turned the tables on that. I have to imagine the authors and artists in general are very happy.

As as side note, the "cloud computing" phenomenon is very similar in intellectual rights issues.

So yeah, the Kindle is great but I love my papreback books too.

Side issue, it does raise the price for books on the low end. No more $3 used paperbacks. I wonder if that will effect the lower income reading habits at all?
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There are thousands of free ebooks (mostly the classics), and often you can get some new books very cheaply. I think there are hacks so you can share your ebooks, too, but I haven't looked at that. I'd venture to say there's a surge in the number of people reading the classics because they're free, which can only be a good thing.

I love my Kindle. It's like carrying around a box of books with me wherever I go (without the back pain). My problem with it is, which book to read? Once you have access to thousands of books, it's hard to choose which one you want to read, so I'm suddenly reading ten books simultaneously (sort of). But it's nice that I can go find the chapter I especially like and read that, then switch to something else, without having to go though all the books in the house, go to the garage and go through the boxes of books there, until I find that book and that specific chapter.

The other problem is instant access. I live where we don't have 3G access, which is a good thing because I have no self-control and would spend the grocery money on books if I was enabled with that evil 3G. The only place locally I've been able to find wifi is in our own house, and I'm afraid someone will catch me downloading books to my Kindle if I attempted it.

I still go to the bookstore, though, when I get the chance. The local independent is 30 miles away though, in another state, and the closest big bookstore (Borders) is 180 miles away. There are books you can't read on Kindle, like knitting books and magazines, that you have to look at thoroughly before you buy (which cancels out Amazon and BN.com)

@ Urs: what I miss from paper books is marginalia. I'm a person who likes to make notes in my books, and it's inconvenient to do so on the Kindle. I underline, highlight, write in the margins, put stickies in the pages to help me recall where I read something...it's just not easy to do it on the Kindle, so yes, I do still use real books for the classes I teach, and I teach my students to write in their books.
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The only place locally I've been able to find wifi is in our own house, and I'm afraid someone will catch me downloading books to my Kindle if I attempted it.
Someone?



Actually, now that our local cell company is switching over from Alltel to AT&T, you'll probably soon be able to... er, I mean...

...forget I said anything.

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There is a lady that comes in to where I work who has her knitting patterns on PDF on her Kindle.
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. . I underline, highlight, write in the margins, put stickies in the pages to help me recall where I read something...
Remind me never to loan you one of my books.

The deal breaker for me is no color covers. I know there's a color cover of sorts on Amazon if you are shopping on your home computer, but this is too small and just not good enough. The idea of color covers becoming obsolete is an anathema to an illustrator. I'll wait until the same easy-on-the-eye technology is available in color.

Meanwhile, I'm sure used paperback stores at least will be around as long as I am alive.
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I do love having my Kindle. I don't really miss books at all. Of course I never was all "omg this book smells so good, lookit, pages n stuff"

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The idea of color covers becoming obsolete is an anathema to an illustrator. I'll wait until the same easy-on-the-eye technology is available in color.
I think you want an iPad. Or at least a color Nook.

I suspect a color version of the Kindle is coming.

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Old 04-17-2011, 08:59 PM   #12
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I love my kindle. I find it amazing I can carry so many books at once. The paper books don't end up cluttering my house.
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sorry, folks, but i'm sticking with the tactile textiles. i'd prefer the ability to pass them on, often to those "less fortunate" than i.





(and that number seems to be dwindling. perhaps i should sell them rather than donate.)
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I just googled Kindle and found this website "Bid Deal" where 3g's are going for under $5. Have any of you guys ever heard of it. I think you have to pay 75cents per bid. My child has a zillion books all over her bedroom floor. It's a wonder she doesn't trip over them and kill hereself.

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sorry, folks, but i'm sticking with the tactile textiles. i'd prefer the ability to pass them on, often to those "less fortunate" than i.
I take great pleasure in leaving books I have finished at my coffee store in the morning hoping someone else enjoys them as much as I did
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There is a lady that comes in to where I work who has her knitting patterns on PDF on her Kindle.
I do too, but it's really hard to read the charts on the PDFs, even when you zoom. Illustrations of the knitting also don't measure up well.
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PDFs are abysmal on Kindle. I'm not sure but I think the DX might be a lot better, but still not great.
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Yeah, I have only loaded a couple PDF's on my Kindle, and I can't read them at all. She must have it worked out somehow! I'll have to have her show me. Not that I've really been knitting at all.

It really has been convenient to have my medical dictionary on my Kindle, a three pound book I don't have to lug around, yay!
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Also nice if you have an Audible membership and use the Kindle to dl audiobooks to listen to while (knitting, doing dishes, cooking, quilting, insert past time of your choice...) I have a thingie I can plug into my car lighter that allows me to listen to my Kindle audiobooks on my car radio, too.
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Kindle wins hands down. I loved paperbacks as much as the next guy, but toting a portable library is just damn convenient.
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I hear the kindles passed paper backs and hardbacks in sales.
On Amazon. Out in the wild world paperbacks/hardbacks still enjoy a large lead.
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I'm a huge reader and my home is filled with books of both the hardback and paperback variety. That said, I've been slowly getting rid of my paper books since I got my kindle. I don't miss them at all. I love my kindle.
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Put me in the "loves Kindle" category too. It (and the other devices like it) do for reading what the Walkman did for music. Except that with e-ink, it's not giant step down in reading quality.

IMHO, the iPad/iPhone/etc isn't as good a Kindle for lacking e-ink.
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I love my kindle and I don't miss the paper feel at all. I have bad eyesight and the kindle is so much easier for me to see, I can enlarge the text if necessary, and it's smaller in my pocket than an average paperback.

I'm busy working through just about all the free books on Amazon. Then I'm going to start on the free books from everywhere else on the web.

In the four months I've had it, I think I've already saved it's value by not going into the bookshop and buying half a dozen paperbacks every month.
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REALLY.

I hadn't thought of that. The eyesight thing.

I can still read. But it has occurred to me I have kind ofavoided reading things that aren't on the computer for the past few years.

That is, I will take a book on vacation, but am less likely to pick one up before bed, for instance.

I have been thinking that maybe, gradually, it has become more of a chore to read in small type.

I realized this a couple of weeks ago when I picked up a funny book I had read years before to reread and thought, how did I ever willingly read such tiny print?

Well, it didn't seem so tiny to me then.

So I have been thinking, I ought to get one of those big magnifying glasses.

But - from what you say, Kindle would solve that problem real quick like.

This would work for recreational reading, anyway. I'm pretty sure Kindle wouldn't have on it all the stuff I read, which is old as well as new.
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Does anyone have any subscriptions? Magazines, papers etc?

Right now everything is free but those days are drawing to a close. Was just wondering how much is kindle friendly?
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Does anyone have any subscriptions? Magazines, papers etc?

Right now everything is free but those days are drawing to a close. Was just wondering how much is kindle friendly?

I don't have any subscriptions because right now everything is free on the web. when that ends, i'll probably buy subscriptions. considering a subcription to the NYT now.
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They're not bad but I don't have a 3g one and when I subscribed to Politico and WSJ I found I wasn't remembering to turn it on to let them sync in the morning before I went to work, where I had no access to open wifi.

If you've got favorite websites that do full-text feeds, I recommend kindlefeeder.com. I liked it so much I subscribed for a year of the service.
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On further thought, maybe there is an advantage to having a book with no color cover, if like me you want to read "Captain Future Meets Doc Savage in the Jungles of Venus - A Novel" or similar guilty pleasures on the bus commute.
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Also a lot of the 99cent erotica isn't bad. *cough*
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I hadn't thought of that. The eyesight thing.
Big advantage of the kindle You can change the font size
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I see the advantages for them thou.
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kindle?

we got a nook color

rooted it and can dual boot into a rooted nook android OS (have not updated yet, been too busy to mess with rerooting too quickly) and 3.0 honeycomb

better screen than the ipad 2 (although slightly slower), full color, it has the wi-fi's (which i run from a wireless tether on my rooted droid), AND we can download the kindle app

for $250 we got a great ereader which also happens to be a raging android dual boot tablet
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kindle?

we got a nook color

rooted it and can dual boot into a rooted nook android OS (have not updated yet, been too busy to mess with rerooting too quickly) and 3.0 honeycomb

better screen than the ipad 2 (although slightly slower), full color, it has the wi-fi's (which i run from a wireless tether on my rooted droid), AND we can download the kindle app

for $250 we got a great ereader which also happens to be a raging android dual boot tablet
I was tempted to do this, but I really just wanted a no frills reader. Book time is no distraction time for me.
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The Nook is a lot heavier than the Kindle, too. And yeah, part of the reason I dig the kindle is it's a single purpose device (well, there's an experimental webkit based web browser, but it's pretty slow and painful). I'm also pretty sure Nook has no chance of beating the kindle for power consumption. I've recharged it three times since December.
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Good. Cause I wouldn't want to have to hold something heavy.

You guys have almost convinced me on this. Which means I might start to want it, which means I might actually break down and get it in five or six years.
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Coco, if you miss reading I really urge you to fast track the decision. I have read more in the last 6 months than I have in years. I no longer have to worry about bringing one book and feeling like reading another. If finish one on vacation you can browse and buy books from anywhere you can get a signal. It's really great. /evangelizing>
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