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Old 02-11-2012, 12:41 AM   #81
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Don't worry, he won't leave.
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Is this easy? Is it making you feel good?

I bet not.
naw, you don't go on a massive trollothon like he did here and at SLU unless it makes you tingly somewhere...
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I suspected as much, but I did take a step back for a sec, before I realized that possibility.
as I had a momentary vision of a battle uterus in full on attack mode when I saw I was Coyote's worst enemy, it almost gave me hives... just for a second... lofl
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hth a social misfit and a social retard aren't the same thing. Since you are a hair on the conventionally retarded side I see how you could make the mistake though.
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"Lol them faggets need to die in hellfire :SMUG: SHE DESERVE RAPE FOR WALKIN DOWN THAT ALLEY"

ITS MY OPINION LOL? I MISFIT
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Dude, seriously?

Look, I know how badly you want to win your argument, but face it. . .you can't. It isn't that you're being politically incorrect. It isn't even that you've stuck your foot in your mouth (you have, and chewed vigorously on the dotted line). You just have this driving need to be right.

It came out when you tried to apologize in that other thread. What you thought was a sincere apology looked like this to many people (including me):

"I'm sorry, but you should have known you were gonna get raped."

English is a funny language. What you write and what others read are often very different animals, so my advice to you is to type out whatever responses you give, read them, reread them, edit them, read them again, and then delete.

I have actually said in that thread that I don't think you're a bad guy, but you are saying some incredibly stupid and offensive things. Then after getting banned, you came here and were even more offensive.

Come to think of it, your behaviors are classic signs of depression. Knowing a bit of your real life situation, I would suggest you get some professional help before you begin to alienate your family, in addition to everyone on the forums.

We may be "faceless" but every single one of us has feelings, and believe it or not, when you trigger someone's bad experiences, they can take it incredibly hard.

So GET HELP. Also, stop posting in threads on subjects you know nothing about. By the way, when the original post has an embedded video or a link to a news story or something, take a look at what's being posted before you spout your opinions. It may save you a lot of trouble later on down the road.
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I'm not going to weigh in on much here .... as my views on the trigger subject are rather complicated and quite frankly DO piss people off when taken utterly out of context ...

I will not bother seeking out the thread in question as it would likely only confirm what I already suspect ....

The fact of the matter is that if you cannot phrase your views in a manner in which they can be clearly understood, one should state as I did at the start of my response and never bother to spell them out.

Does he deserve being roasted for causing a trigger response?

Yes and no.

This IS the Internet and on web forums, one can use Ignore and step out of the thread ... I've had to do this on numerous occasions myself, elsewhere.

It's not a recrimination to those blasting Beau - it's just a statement and one I believe would prevent future issues.

The constant screwdrivering and such over this incident ... is not helping matters either. Lambaste him all you want in a single response and be done with it. Take it from soemone who is quick to anger and does not handle stress well .... It's not good for one's health (and I don't want to hear the bullshit from the lot of you about your not realy being angry).

On the flip side, he did make an observation I personally agree with - after all, I've had nothing but problems with It from day one.

You may disagree with his assessment ... but telling him to fuck himself for stating the same fucking thing I have on numerous occasions is a bit far.

Enough is enough.

Get in your pot shots, ignore the entire thread, ignore him and move on.

If he IS trying to get a rise out of everyone, you win in the end. If he's not, you still win out in the end.

There's a reason I have certain people on ignore - it keeps threads from filling up with my brimstone filled retorts.

This may be SC MK II .... But for Goddess sake people, learn when to back off and mute people.
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Beau just needs to stop.

I am someone who fits neatly into his litte. *innocent person, stranger raped* category.

Yet, what he says makes my stomach hurt. It makes me hurt for all of the women I have spoken to who he would blame.

I'm not angry..Just incredibly disappointed and revolted.
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Beau just needs to stop.

I am someone who fits neatly into his litte. *innocent person, stranger raped* category.

Yet, what he says makes my stomach hurt. It makes me hurt for all of the women I have spoken to who he would blame.

I'm not angry..Just incredibly disappointed and revolted.
I understand but ... there's nothing you can say or do that will change his opinion.

Like I said, best to say your fill and move on.

It's not worth it.
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Naaa

You just be careful who you sleep with.
Question.. when you were a little boy and you were abused..
i presume you were engaging in casual sex with strangers...
or wearing womens clothing and hanging around on street corners...
or generally inviting the abuse.. shame on you.

i mean what other basis could you have for your deep seated twisted belief other than personal experience?
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I have yet to reply on the other thread mainly because I came so late to it. Then I had to stop and walk away do other things when I started to read it. I am one of the people his words triggered some very bad head space in. The reasons are numerous but one of them is that I never once tried to report any of the people who commited this inexcusable act against me. I was too embarassed due to how I thought that I'd be percieved if I told what had happened to me. The one time it did get discovered, my family did not go to the police but rather sent me to a restrictive xtian school where I was dragged into the principal's office and lectured about the fact that I had told one other girl what had happened to me. -just shakes my head- So, yeah I know about the blame the victim and punish her for being assaulted mentality, thank you very much. Oh? And I took hickory switchings for laying out of that school instead of subjecting myself to a nasty, misogynistic mentality like that too. Trust me, I don't guilt over things like that any more. Morons who try to push that button on me get a fuck off asswipe response from me. Idiots like you Beau make me sneer and point a mocking finger in your direction as you rush to prove to all and sundry how totaly loserville you really are. Bad moron no cookie!
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Hey! I just saw that I'm a poopyhead!

LMAO..Is that some kind of automated thing, or am I really a poopyhead?!
We are poopyheads, one and all!

Rejoice in your poopyheadedness!
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I just want to take this opportunity to thank Beau for bringing all these new voices of people who are new or have been lurking. Nice to have new people around.

Beyond that, nothig good to say about it.
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I don't appreciate that one of the few forums I tend to frequent occasionally becomes the dumping ground when someone can't keep their shit together somewhere else.

I hope he is gone now.
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I shared a story about my fight with pain killers over the last 2 years.

It was made fun of and made used to make arrogant statements

I explained one day that my wife and I had three daughters which I adore with my life, but I wanted a boy still and my wife and I made a decision to try for one on the forth and we got that boy

A bunch of people started saying I dont love my daughters and I am a bad father. Not once but every chance they got. Making comments that I don't really love my daughters.

I once shared a story about my wife health problem at the time

I was told by someone they hope she dies

I can sit here and name countless fucked up shit said about me on that other forum. From what I am told they are going on about me even now. I am not making excuses, I am not playing victim, I am making a point about respect. You get what you dish out. The same people I hurt with my comments are the ones who popped into every thread saying shit about my family

Hypocrites.

If you look through the thread of late over there. I did nopt reply to these attacks. So eventually when I decided to fight back, and gve you guys the show you want. You act as if this is not what this community enjoys. Next week will be someone elses turn.
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I don't appreciate that one of the few forums I tend to frequent occasionally becomes the dumping ground when someone can't keep their shit together somewhere else.

I hope he is gone now.
This is one thread out of thousands. Check those out.
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Go away. You don't deserve consideration here.
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I shared a story about my fight with pain killers over the last 2 years.
You also used this as an excuse for going off the deep end the last time you were banned from/left the site.

Look, I have been saying all along that I don't think you're a bad guy; that you just stick your foot in your mouth and chew vigorously on the dotted line *all the time*. But you really do need to think about what you're saying and how you're saying it.

You claim we're all faceless. To some extent that is true, but that does not mean that words don't bother some people. You repeatedly offended people at the other thread, even as you posted apologies for saying the things you did.

You are the one who came into the thread with both barrels blazing, making your opinions known on a subject you not only don't know a thing about, but you did not even bother to watch the video in the first post while making judgement calls about the women the post was about.

Given what I've seen about you, from your own words and from others, I think it's time for you to swallow that pride and maybe let this go. But I don't think you're capable of doing that, based on how many folks asked you to stop being offensive in the last thread, yet you kept going and digging your heels in through some driving need to be right.
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Go suck a bag of strange man dicks
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Given what I've seen about you, from your own words and from others, I think it's time for you to swallow that pride and maybe let this go. But I don't think you're capable of doing that, based on how many folks asked you to stop being offensive in the last thread, yet you kept going and digging your heels in through some driving need to be right.
I had a rule. When you made a comment about my family, I simply placed you on ignore. When you name called, I place you on ignore. By the 3rd page of that thread I didnt see alo of peoples post. If you notice I was quoting and responding to just a few people having a civil conversation.
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Eh, you are right though. It is time for me to swallow pride and walk away. I know I will not win here. I do not plan on sticking around long. I know people say I will be back, they are forgetting I did disapear for three years.

Thank you to the couple friends I do have willing to see past the childish minipulative games. The rest of you.....ehh....insert your own random insult here.
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Who are you???

Really go to a different thread. People I have never even seen or talked to before just like to try and tailgate my drama threads. I didnt give you a pass.
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When will Bleau stop saying he'll go away and actually go away... This week? Next week? Make your wagers, folks.
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In teh crystal ball...I see enough corn to make Iowa jealous.

That kind of shit about rape is more common to places like Saudi Arabia and Iran. Not a Western republic. A civilized man has no place being a blame-her misogynist.
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Hey Beau.

What's up.

I see you are b... oh.
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Hi there clownshoes, as an addict I can tell you it doesn't give you a right to be a jerkoff. Nothing actually gives you that right. So stop blaming your behavior on other people, grow a pair of balls or get them out of your wife's purse and attach them and shut the fuck up and walk the fuck away.
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What a tempest in a teapot.

Last night I looked at all of Beau's responses in that thread, and he stated a lot of times, "Of course this is no excuse for the man to rape her." But that she should not have trusted a total stranger and gone to his house and started to have sex with him.

WELL DUH.

Then, just now, I watched the video at the beginning of the thread. Where the husband seemed to be saying the same thing: "Of course he shouldn't have raped you, but you shouldn't have let him give you head."

Well duh again.

Now, I didn't read everybody else's posts (it was a long thread), but I assume at some point someone started talking about being triggered to a bad memory. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)

In which case, why weren't they triggered by the video itself?

Buncha Lord of the Flies over there. (And somewhat over here.)

I have never been raped. But I have been ALMOST raped.

I was living in New York. I had a date with this guy I met at a pet store. I didn't know him from Adam, of course, but he worked in the store, so I guess I somehow figured that made him okay.

We went out to eat, and then back to his apartment for him to show me something or other.

(Remember, like the girl in the video on SLU, I was very young. A few years older than she was, but still young enough to be stupid.)

So pretty soon this guy is on me, and dragging me onto his bed. Mind you, I weighed all of about 95 pounds at the time, and 5' tall. I was in very good shape (took ballet), but this guy was probably 5'10" - 6' and 200-250 pounds.

I fought that guy off like crazy, in addition to telling him no, no, no. When I say "fighting him off," it is really kind of pathetic. Kind of like, I would push with all my might and it was like pushing on a concrete wall. (I didn't hit him, cause I didn't want to make him mad. I was afraid I'd be hurt or killed. Plus I knew that wouldn't do any good, either.)

I used all my adrenalin and all my strength in this, to absolutely no avail.

Then I thought of something to tell him that might make him stop long enough to get away. My brain was working real fast, and I reasoned that telling him I was on my period likely would make no difference, so I told him, "Stop, stop, I just had an operation down there."

Well, that was off-putting enough for him to stop long enough, in surprise and puzzlement, for me to get out from under him. I grabbed my purse off the table and ran like hell out the door and down the stairs, with him in hot pursuit.

Then I ran what must have been three blocks (and this was at night), until I managed to hail a cab - the first two blocks with him behind me!

(Apparently being in good shape when it came to running was an advantage over his height and weight if he wasn't in as good shape.)

I got in the cab totally trembling in every muscle, exhausted, and scared to death. The cabbie looked at me and asked what happened. As we drove, I told him.

"Don't ever go into the apartments of guys you don't know," he said.

Well, I learned that lesson and learned it very, very well. Don't go into apartments of guys you don't know.

I was sore as heck for the next few days. I musta used muscles I didn't know I had, even as a dancer, both from fighting and running.

Incredibly, this doofus who tried to rape me actually CALLED me over the next week, saying he was sorry, and couldn't we get back together. (That scared me some, too, but he soon stopped.)

Same freaking situation as that girl in the video. The sexual trauma of my life, and, I'm sure, of hers, too. (And yes, I'm grateful and lucky that it wasn't worse.)

There's the husband in the video saying she shouldn't have done what she did, though of course that was no excuse for the guy. There's Beau, saying she shouldn't have gone with a guy she didn't know, though of course that was no excuse for the guy.

There was ME, who shouldn't have gone into the guy's apartment, though of course that was no excuse for the guy.

I thank that cab driver for putting such a simple, but effective notion into my head. I was all young, naive, and trusting, like that girl in the video. The cabbie was right. The husband was right. BEAU is right.

The fact that the cabbie was right doesn't mean he approved of the guy trying to rape me, or anything like that.

There is such a thing as safety and street smarts, and it is not wrong to advise your daughters on how to best stay safe. If you CAN'T advise that, because it might be . . . oh, I don't know, somehow . . . er, what? I can't even think in those terms. You can't talk about what not to do because that excuses the rapist? Or something?

Well, count me out of that one, on account of I want my daughters safe, and they wouldn't misconstrue what I am telling them as somehow *not* blaming the rapist, any more than I misconstrued what the cabbie was telling me.
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I haven't read that thread over there and I'm not sure if I'm going to. Just because Beau got pissed off in that thread over there doesn't mean its ok for him to come here and act like an ass.
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Except people kept pointing out to Beau that the vast majority of rapes don't happen from strangers or in situations like that, but instead happen from close acquaintances and family members and he just kept going HERP DERP STRANGER DANGER RAPITY RAPE IT'S MY OPINON THERE WILL BE ALOT FEWER RAPES DERP DERP DERP.
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ok I've started reading it. Beau I'm going to try and explain this to you because it is clear you do not understand.

Yeah you are right -- letting someone you don't know go down on you and expecting nothing else to happen is maybe not the brightest thing anyone ever did. But, and here's the part you don't get -- that's a different conversation.

She had, for lack of a better word, a contract with the guy. He would do one thing and one thing only. He would go down on her. He then decided to break that contract. If I have two pieces of land side by side and I agree to sell you one, it doesn't give you the right to take the other one by force. That's called theft. When something like that is sexual its called rape and abuse.

But there's something deeper going on here than even breaking a contract or sexually assaulting someone. Its that, invariably, when rape comes up, someone comes along to say what the victim could have done to avert it. As you did. Hence blaming the victim. And you don't see this in any other crime. You don't hear "that store had nice things in the window and had they not displayed their wares they wouldn't have been robbed". When you hear of someone being murdered the third post down isn't "omg well he shouldn't have gone to that stranger's house". But when someone gets raped she shouldn't have let that guy gone down on her. Or she shouldn't have been wearing that short skirt. Or she shouldn't have been in that place at that time. OH but that doesn't excuse the rapist of course. But she shouldn't have been in that place at that time.

Do you see how condescending and misogynist that is?

There's behavior and dress and all that and we can talk about that. But there's NO excuse for rape. None. Nada. Zip. No means no. And yeah -- it sucks when a woman gets all the way to point of insertion and then changes her mind if that's what she does (which isn't what happened in the OP on SLU) but that just makes the woman an ass. Its not an excuse to rape her. At any time when the other person says NO it means NO. It means stop. And you don't get to continue whatever it was you were doing just because you are hard.
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