Avatars United

[Madame Maracas]

Ok, ok, ok, I'm on AU!





http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/madamemaracas





Dunno what I'll do with it but ok there it is.


If I were still active in other MMO's I would do those other characters/avies but I've not logged in elsewhere for about a year, so I don't see the point for me to set up my defunct Age of Conan, EverQuest II and World of Warcraft avies, much less my There.com one. Doubt I'll do my SL alts either.

[Lucifer Baphomet]

LL can shove this shite up their arses till their sphincter ruptures, and their pants become a bloadsoaked mess.

What were they thinking, buying this sad Facebook clone and then pushing it through their blog.

[Lucifer Baphomet]

I mean, seriously.

LL can't even run a fucking forum.

This is full of fail

[Cale Vinson]

Prok is there already: http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/prokofy-neva-second-life

But I'm not sure he has entirely bought into the idea .....


Basic information
I hate:
social media railroading



Prokofy Neva The Grid Worldwide, Second Life
Feeling railroaded into joining a place outworld. about 5 hours ago



Prokofy Neva subscribed to a new feed about 4 hours ago
What Is This Crap?


:D




ps. Lucifer is just all crabby-pants because I got there before him, registered "Lucifer Baphomet" and uploaded Hello Kitty as his AV. :p

[Madame Maracas]

I figure I'll reserve my name, who knows what you guys would do w/it if I didn't, and then it will sit, parked, like about 20 other whatevers I've signed up for over the years. I don't see any utility for it at all, just like SLprofiles. Sign up,fill in the standard bio, once every few months log in and accept or decline trolls ... er ... friends requests, ignore it otherwise.

[Madame Maracas]

It is funny to me how someone as "tough" as Prok can feel railroaded by an option, I didn't see a single thing that suggested one NEEDS to sign up for AU. Did I miss the AU waterboarding on the Lido deck?

[Lucifer Baphomet]

Apparantly multiple people can use the same name, like on facebook...

so you can't "reserve" your name.

[Madame Maracas]

grrr that's no good.
well then I'm there for no damn good reason whatsoever.

[Cale Vinson]

Apparantly multiple people can use the same name, like on facebook...

so you can't "reserve" your name.

Wow.

That's going to get confusing when some bright spark in PN starts to write AU blogs in Prok's name. :D

For that matter, this is probably my best chance to have "Aimee Weber" declare her undying love for me on teh webz, where it must be true. :p

[Lucifer Baphomet]

Wow.

That's going to get confusing when some bright spark in PN starts to write AU blogs in Prok's name. :D

For that matter, this is probably my best chance to have "Aimee Weber" declare her undying love for me on teh webz, where it must be true. :p

I'm sure now you've made this post, and given them the idea, it will only be a matter of hours.

You will be a folk hero, and they will sing songs of you in Fort Longcat

[Madame Maracas]

They read SCmk2?

[Lucifer Baphomet]

They read SCmk2?

Well, at least one person from Woodbury reads SC...

Woodbury and PN are so intertwined, it's almost impossible to seperate the two..

You do the math

[Madame Maracas]

I am so much better w/words and graphics than math, but I think I can see a Venn Diagram of it in my head, will that suffice?

[Elora Lunasea]

I joined yesterday. People kept tweeting about it, so I took a look and signed up because I'm a glutton for punishment.

In my defense, at that moment I had no idea LL was involved.

I felt so dirty when I found out.

http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/elora-lunasea

[Macphisto Angelus]

LL will delete all content not SL related in 5.......4........3.......2........

[prinţesă nina]

not likely ill use it considering ll's love of linking bans, forbidding chat logs, etc.

[Imnotgoing Sideways]

There are already two "Imnotgoing Sideways" accounts on AU. This is the one I created. (^_^)

http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/imnotgoing-sideways

=^-^=

[prinţesă nina]

how typical...
everything the lab touches turns to shit.

503 Service Unavailable
No server is available to handle this request.

[Tya]

yeah i got sucked in ... lol

[Macphisto Angelus]

There are already two "Imnotgoing Sideways" accounts on AU. This is the one I created. (^_^)

http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/imnotgoing-sideways

=^-^=

Annnnd this is the one I created..

Kidding.

:hahaha:

[Freya]

something else i won't bother to keep up with

[Aimee Weber]

Wow.

That's going to get confusing when some bright spark in PN starts to write AU blogs in Prok's name. :D

For that matter, this is probably my best chance to have "Aimee Weber" declare her undying love for me on teh webz, where it must be true. :p

My lawyer is writing you a love letter as we speak. :fist:

<3

[Madame Maracas]

I fully expect that in about 3 days when everyone is done w/signups I'll promptly forget about it. And that's fine with me.

[Sally Rosebud]

They don't want to send me an e-mail, so, meh.

[Amaranthim Talon]

i signed up figuring also to reserve name - iam not real good with keeping up with all the extra clutter as i barely keep up with my lives as it is.

[Fox Stirling]

I signed up - also to reserve my name. While trying to update my profile the site crashed and just now when I tried to check back it automatically logged me in as Sigmund Leominster (http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/sigmund-leominster)

O.o

[Sally Rosebud]

Well finally got the confirmation e-mail, but it won't let me log in. :shrug:

[Osprey Therian]

I signed up - also to reserve my name. While trying to update my profile the site crashed and just now when I tried to check back it automatically logged me in as Sigmund Leominster (http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/sigmund-leominster)

O.o

That's M's alt.

[Lias]

fromAvatars United: noreply@avatarsunited.com
dateSat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:59 PM
subject!Emerald Viewer! has sent you a friendship request
mailed-bysendgrid.me
signed-bysendgrid.me

Hi
!Emerald Viewer! wants to unite with you on Avatars United.
Click on the link below to respond to this request:
http://www.avatarsunited.com/inbox/requests

Regards,
The Avatars United team
http://www.avatarsunited.com
To ensure our messages are delivered properly to your inbox (not bulk or junk folders), add noreply@avatarsunited.com to your Address Book or Safe List.
________________________________________
Not cool.

So is Emerald gathering all of the e-mail addrsses that ever downloaded their viewer and somehow cross referencing that data with data at Avatars United?

I wonder if Linden Lab/Avatar United gave Emerald access to their participant data.

[YOUR MOM]

Do you actually get any business from that obnoxious gif in your signature?

[Tya]

Do you actually get any business from that obnoxious gif in your signature?


lol tell us how you really feel

[Lucifer Baphomet]

Well, this latest debacle from LL has been the straw that broke the camel's back, for Ordinal.

http://twitter.com/ordinal

http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/

:(

[Spaceman Opus]

Well, this latest debacle from LL has been the straw that broke the camel's back, for Ordinal.

http://twitter.com/ordinal

http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/

:(

ack

:(

[Macphisto Angelus]

Well, this latest debacle from LL has been the straw that broke the camel's back, for Ordinal.

http://twitter.com/ordinal

http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/

:(

This is when you realize we aren't in Kansas anymore.

SL is dead as we knew it.. the bastard child of M and Philip is what lives now.

Someday when Lindens are stocking shelves and shagging carts at Wal-Mart they will remember the defining moment when something special turned into just another fucked up data mining system.

Fuck the new regime very much.

[YOUR MOM]

Well, this latest debacle from LL has been the straw that broke the camel's back, for Ordinal.

http://twitter.com/ordinal

http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/

:(


Awww fuck. Way to go LL. Incidentally, I noticed on FB that Philip is farming out his menial labor via requests by some website that sublets programming joblets. Must be in the blood. What a goat rope the past 6+ years have been. :-(

[Imnotgoing Sideways]

Do you actually get any business from that obnoxious gif in your signature?It's a scam. I give out most of the information for free. (^_^)y

[Macphisto Angelus]

And one more thing to those who thought Philip was that fuzzy happy hippie wannabe that had a dream and a vision....

Bait and switch is no fun.

[Imnotgoing Sideways]

Well, this latest debacle from LL has been the straw that broke the camel's back, for Ordinal.

http://twitter.com/ordinal

http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/

:(It sucked to watch her on the Twitter feed. Sick Irony that I was getting all the updates through her TwitterBox HUD. (T_T)

[YOUR MOM]

It's a scam. I give out most of the information for free. (^_^)y


Well duh. Get off my lawn you whippersnappers.

Long live the memory of Twister, Phreak, Roadhouse Rawk and Radio Free Darkmere.


:beesknees:

[Mourna Biziou]

Well, this latest debacle from LL has been the straw that broke the camel's back, for Ordinal.

http://twitter.com/ordinal

http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/

:(
:(

[Wendy Bouchard]

I adore Ordinal :crying::crying::crying::crying:

[Lias]

Do you actually get any business from that obnoxious gif in your signature?So your role this evening is to click around and randomly insult banners in your participant's signatures?

A nice new player made it for me - I gave him a free store for his graphic business as a barter. He did a good job for a begginner.

[YOUR MOM]

So your role this evening is to click around and randomly insult banners in your participant's signatures?

A nice new player made it for me - I gave him a free store for his graphic business as a barter. He did a good job for a begginner.

Nah, I just insulted yours alone. It wasn't hard. I just don't like flashy bannery sigs.

[Envoy Costagravas]

I adore Ordinal :crying::crying::crying::crying:
Me, too.

I'll always remember: just before signing up for SL, I had found the original "Guide to SL" book, and I eventually (mostly through the interactions on SCI) met a lot of the people profiled in the book (Aimee, Desmond, etc). But when I finally went inworld, Ordinal was one of the very first people I actually met. We had hot, passionate sex on the floor of Ordinal Enterprises. She was very helpful to a n00b, and the SL experience is greatly diminished by her exit.

[Beezle Warburton]

I'm using it as a free spot to pimp my store . . . In lieu of actually building new stuff. :p

As a social interaction site, it sucks donkey nards. And not in a nice way.

http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/beezle-warburton

[Govi]

Without any ability authentically to tie our SL identities to the AU identities--which seems to be the whole point, though it was also true of FB, too--it seems a total waste of everyone's efforts: LL, AU, and ours.

[Mordos Yering]

Well, at least it's an indicator that LL is doing well enough to buy stupid crap :D

[Imnotgoing Sideways]

Has anyone actually tried the search tool there? I can't get it to find a single keyword, just avatar and group names. (=_=)

So, I have to know the name of who I'm looking for before I find out who they are? (^_^)y

[Madame Maracas]

I've only been able to use it to search for a first name, putting first and last failed for me. Never thought to search for anything else as I really don't see what the heck itwill offer utility wise better than plurkor fb or scmk2 offers me already.

[Lias]

Nah, I just insulted yours alone. It wasn't hard. I just don't like flashy bannery sigs.
It's yellow - not flashy - but yeah, the text does change alot. I can get him to change the yellow to something less glaring.

But about Avatar United: There is fearmongering going on about spoofing people's vatar's names and business - since Linden Lab put no security in place. Perhaps you should make an avatar there and the Second Citizen Group just to bookmark it so no one else messes around with you.

I bookmarked all of my important groups there. And I have no real intention of using that site. But I believe Linden Lab is going to put more weight behind this site in the near future.

[Charlemagne Allen]

Well, this latest debacle from LL has been the straw that broke the camel's back, for Ordinal.

http://twitter.com/ordinal

http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/

:(

We've lost a great talent...

:(

[prinţesă nina]

hahahaha
it gets better and better :rolleye:
Fellow avatar,

We are sorry if you've had trouble login in.
Ever since the announcement of Linden Lab's acquisition of Avatars *
United we've experienced ahuge surge in traffic and sign ups. To deal *
with the increased load on our system we had to upgrade our database a *
process during which a limited set of accounts, including yours, were *
lost. We are sorry about this but unfortunately need to ask you to *
sign up again using the same email address.

We are regret the caused inconvenience as you will have to recreate *
your account. Rest assured however that all coins you have lost will *
be restored once you have signed up again and if you have created *
artwork (wallpapers) we will be able to connect those creations to *
your new account.

As a token of our appreciation of your understanding of the situation *
we would furthermore like to grant you a bonus of 1000 Coins. These *
Coins will be added to your account during the coming days after *
you've signed up. If you wish to have them earlier, notify us on info@avatarsunited.com
* .

Hoping for your understanding.
Best regards,

Fredrik & The Avatars United Team
Avatars United

[Beezle Warburton]

hahahaha
it gets better and better :rolleye:

Ah, LL "updated things."

And we know what masters of database administration they are . . .

:wackadoo:

[Lias]

Has anyone actually tried the search tool there? I can't get it to find a single keyword, just avatar and group names. (=_=)

So, I have to know the name of who I'm looking for before I find out who they are? (^_^)yI made some groups and was prompted to make my own search words because there were none as of yet.

I assume they will replace the internal search functions with google soon enough.

[YOUR MOM]

Search is borken LOL

:hahaha::roflmao:

[YOUR MOM]

I'm not finding where you can create groups? Assist?

[Beezle Warburton]

I'm not finding where you can create groups? Assist?

You have to turn on Groups first:

Account (top right)
Details and settings (Tab)
Click on Groups
Then "Enable group functionality"

You'll then have a "Groups" option at the top.

[Dale Innis]

I'm not finding where you can create groups? Assist?

bizarrely, you have to go to somewhere in "my account" and click the "activate groups features" or something checkbox.

Presumably because Groups are even more broken than the rest of the site, and this way if anyone complains they can say "hey, you didn't have to turn on the Groups features!".

Or something... O.o

[Dale Innis]

Me, too.

I'll always remember: just before signing up for SL, I had found the original "Guide to SL" book, and I eventually (mostly through the interactions on SCI) met a lot of the people profiled in the book (Aimee, Desmond, etc). But when I finally went inworld, Ordinal was one of the very first people I actually met. We had hot, passionate sex on the floor of Ordinal Enterprises. She was very helpful to a n00b, and the SL experience is greatly diminished by her exit.

I tend to think she (and/or at least her typist) will still be around, just doing new stuff that she isn't tired of yet. As I said in the comments on her weblog posting, I hope I am in the blast radius of whatever she does next. :) She is so cool.

Of course I am th' Perpetual Optimist, but to me her departure reads more like one of those natural points where someone bright has been doing the same thing for too long and needs to drop it all and do new stuff; rather than a "SL isn't a fun place anymore so all the fun people are leaving" sort of thing...

[YOUR MOM]

Ok den, why not I have NOTHING but time on my hands eh? Needing a spiffy banner for the group. Any of you fine Second Citizens care to donate? 785x175

Haven't decide whether or not to open the forum function there or not.
Seems redundantly redundant.

http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/lecktor-hannibal
http://www.avatarsunited.com/groups/second-citizens

[YOUR MOM]

Hahahah more funneh!

[Dakota Tebaldi]

The only reason I would've signed up for this would be to reserve my name. Since using a name does not, in fact, actually prevent anyone else from using it also, I will not be signing up for this at all. It's not an "I hate LL" thing; it's just useless to me.

I can't imagine anybody would do such a thing, tbh; but if you see any "Dakota Tebaldi"s on there, it's not me.

[Ursula Cinquetti]

I'm gonna use my real name to sign up! :D

[Imnotgoing Sideways]

Gotta admit... The site isn't run without a sense of humor. =^-^=

http://albums.cf.avatarsunited.com/a/imnotgoing-sideways/6603469d3cae7d99ef96ff95124ab6be.original.jpg

[Boy Lane]

It's great fun, be who you want to be, live your imagination. Create a lot of noise to make the data a valuable source for Teh Labratory's data mining so they can sell it for a good price. WE own all of you anyway, everything you put there, and the rest will be assimilated in no time.

Signed
Rainbow Linden ;)

[Lias]

Citizens of Caledon

The Grid Worldwide, Second Life

Group for the Citizens of Caledon and Caledonia in Virtual Worlds.

Also be sure to join the Indipendent State Of Caledon group.

http://www.avatarsunited.com/groups/independent-state-of-caledon

Of course the real Desmond did not make this group - but his doppleganger is a member so many of his tenants blindly joined it.

[Madame Maracas]

Of course the real Desmond did not make this group - but his doppleganger is a member so many of his tenants blindly joined it.
Can't imagine Desmond posting something official like that with a huge, glaring typo.

[Imnotgoing Sideways]

Feldie and Tat went straight to work on things. =^-^=

http://www.avatarsunited.com/groups/nci

[Monna]

Okay made mine so the good name of Ramonna will be pure

[Lias]

Feldie and Tat went straight to work on things. =^-^=

http://www.avatarsunited.com/groups/nci
China pictures? Did you blog them? How long was the flight? Any strip searching at the airport? Did you see a military presence?

I can't believe you didnt start a thread on China.

Jet Lag.

[Imnotgoing Sideways]

China pictures? Did you blog them? How long was the flight? Any strip searching at the airport? Did you see a military presence?

I can't believe you didnt start a thread on China.

Jet Lag.I'm still deciding where to put pictures. The pollution was horrible so I was less than tempted to take any shots since they'd all be nothing more than a brown haze. (._.)

I have a good collection from my weekend break in Hong Kong, though. The air was cleaner there. (^_^)

Flying in was something like 15 hours and the return trip was 10. The final 3 hours to my Taipei layover was riddled with turbulence, though. I'm sure half the plane lost their dinner. I think I woke up for a moment to watch a few people hork in their bags. (._.)

My VP had a good tip about customs. There's a HongKong to mainland ferry that worked best to avoid going through multiple borders. The best part about it was the customs crew at the mainland ferry terminal couldn't care less what came through. They were too busy fiddling with their cell phones to worry about the silly Xray machine. =^-^=

Didn't see much military, but, the police had a booth-like-thing at nearly every street corner. Normally staffed with a guy that looked like he stole the uniform and rusty official motorcycle from someone else. (>_<)

My sleep schedule is surprisingly variable. No matter where I go, I always wake up at 4am. It's probably part of why I'm never late for work. (^_^)y

I found some expected internet difficulties. Going to Imageshack.us directly was fine. Going to Google.com then Imageshack.us would cause my connection to get reset. More than half of Google's image search results were blocked and following the remainder would lead to a reset connection. I could read Twitter, but, I couldn't log in. The forums worked fine though. (^_^)

I didn't do a forum thread about the trip, but, I did post about it and blog (via VPN to California, Blogspot was blocked) about the wonky internet access. And, plenty of Twitter Tweets when the access was available. =^-^=

http://imnotgoingsideways.blogspot.com/2010/01/interwebz-behind-red-curtain.html

Be careful of that first comment. All those dots are spam links to potentially infected porn sites. =^-^=

**Edit** I put pikkies up on AU... So, it's almost thread-relevant now. =^-^=

http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/imnotgoing-sideways/apps/photos?view-params=%7B%22section%22%3A%22album%22%2C%22id%22%3 A%2288627%22%7D

[Elric Anatine]

something else i won't bother to keep up with

You know, with all of the social "out of SL" interfaces, how does anyone have time for a Second Life? Truly.

Facebook
LinkedIn
MySpace
Twitting
WhineJournal
Forums galore
Blogs galore
...

it's absolutely endless. Truly, to each their own and I'm sure they all serve a purpose, but does anyone feel there are just too many ways to "stay in touch" or "voice one's opinion"?

[Dale Innis]

You know, with all of the social "out of SL" interfaces, how does anyone have time for a Second Life? Truly.

Facebook
LinkedIn
MySpace
Twitting
WhineJournal
Forums galore
Blogs galore
...

it's absolutely endless. Truly, to each their own and I'm sure they all serve a purpose, but does anyone feel there are just too many ways to "stay in touch" or "voice one's opinion"?

Everyone but Wallace Linden, as far as I can tell...

[Dakota Tebaldi]

It suddenly occurs to me that none of those other applications have "security verification" for specific names, either. Someone who's not you can set up an account in your name on Facebook, for example.

I don't understand why people could be so upset that Facebook is forbidding avatar accounts, and yet when LL offers something that's A) functionally no different from Facebook, B) no less secure, identity-wise, than Facebook, C) free, and D) COMPLETELY OPTIONAL, people are so incredibly horrified by it.

If you don't like it, don't sign up. If you're really that paranoid, or it's actually causing some confusion, just fit a little "I am not on AU" clause in your in-world profile.

[Govi]

It suddenly occurs to me that none of those other applications have "security verification" for specific names, either. Someone who's not you can set up an account in your name on Facebook, for example.

I don't understand why people could be so upset that Facebook is forbidding avatar accounts, and yet when LL offers something that's A) functionally no different from Facebook, B) no less secure, identity-wise, than Facebook, C) free, and D) COMPLETELY OPTIONAL, people are so incredibly horrified by it.

If you don't like it, don't sign up. If you're really that paranoid, or it's actually causing some confusion, just fit a little "I am not on AU" clause in your in-world profile.

Stop talking sense! :fist:

[Beezle Warburton]

I'm surprised there haven't been more instances of phishing by people pretending to be Lindens with the number of free, unverified email and social websites.

Hell, I'm still getting Bank of America and Fifth Third Band phishing spam...

[Imnotgoing Sideways]

I'm surprised there haven't been more instances of phishing by people pretending to be Lindens with the number of free, unverified email and social websites.

Hell, I'm still getting Bank of America and Fifth Third Band phishing spam...These are SL users. I'm sure the phishers would be going after people with money. (^_^)y

[Lias]

SL Blips HUD for AvatarsUnited.com

SL Blips is an application for Avatars United (http://www.avatarsunited.com/) that enables you to display your Second Life related information on your Avatars United profile and send short messages (called "blips") from within Second Life which are then displayed on your Avatars United profile.

You can also easily set or update your home or business location directly from Second Life.

This HUD allows you to connect your Second Life avatar with your profile on Avatars United.

To use this HUD, you will also need to add the SL Blips (http://www.avatarsunited.com/apps/slblips) application to your Avatars United profile by going to

http://www.avatarsunited.com/apps/slblips (http://www.avatarsunited.com/apps/slblips)


https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=2084639

[Fmeh]

Well, I gave in and joined.....

[Beezle Warburton]

These are SL users. I'm sure the phishers would be going after people with money. (^_^)y

You forget the underground currency of SL: Lulz.

[Ursula Cinquetti]

WhineJournal

I'm not on that one yet, but it sounds good. Link?

[Madame Maracas]

http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/madamemaracas

[Lias]

You can join the Zindra Adult Festival Info group on Avatars United at http://www.avatarsunited.com/groups/zindra-adult-festival-information (http://www.avatarsunited.com/groups/zindra-adult-festival-information)

Please verify your SL Avatars United account by getting a free AU HUD here https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=2084639 (https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=2084639)

Connect with me at http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/lias-leandros

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4344311911_9b1f3340f3.jpg

[Lias]

When creating your AU account - do NOT use your avatar age. The genius pool at LL/AU will delete you for being 5 years old.

Dear Avatars United Member,

We recently disabled and deleted your account, due to Avatars United age restrictions and/or other terms of use restrictions. We shall promptly make appropriate refunds for any virtual currency contained in your account, additional info on refunds should follow soon. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. If you have questions regarding this, please contact us at Avatars United, at support@avatarsunited.com.
Sincerely,
Avatars United
Dear Lisa,

We apologize for the recent problem of your deleted account. Due to
technical difficulties of our registration process, your account was
included in our efforts to properly enforce our Terms of Use.
We understand your concerns with this issue, and unfortunately we are
unable to restore your account at this time. You are now able to
recreate an account on Avatars United with your Second Life account
name, but you will have to use a different email to register. Please
make sure you use your personal date of birth to avoid any future
issues. We hope that you will rejoin Avatars United, as your
participation as a Second Life resident is extremely valuable to us.
Sincerely,
Avatars United Support at Linden Lab

[Madame Maracas]

That is beyond brilliant, register AS your avie, but not w/your avie's stats?
:rofl:

[Morgaine Alter]

God now I have to sign up just to preserve my name there.
grrr

[Govi]

God now I have to sign up just to preserve my name there.
grrr
AU allows multiple accounts to be established under the same name, just as Facebook does. The multiple accounts need only have different email addresses for each account. Example, there are several M Linden accounts, but presumably only one of them is the actual CEO of our dear LL.

[Morgaine Alter]

oh just great huh