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Vivianne Draper
10-13-2010, 03:28 PM
Someone has an axe to grind. I decided to copy the whole thing here because for sure its going down as soon as EA legal's dept sees it. wowee



Hi everyone,
I would think myself to be part of some noble cause, like the original EA Spouse trying to save her husband from a hellish work environment at EA. That had a happy ending, however, with tons of publicity and a total change of overtime wages and salaries and how they are handled within the company. I do not expect a happy ending, so I’ll be personal and selfish, and this is just for me.
So just call me EA Louse.

I found out recently that I will be dismissed from Bioware Mythic during the next round of layoffs EA coming this November. I’m sick of seeing EA outsource their art and find every excuse to get rid of us and still not achieve anything. Mythic is dying, and its not us who killed him but we’re taking the fall.

But if you want to know what really went down with Warhammer, I’ll tell you right now.

First, the project leaders did not know what they were doing. Jeff Hickman was the saddest excuse for a producer I’ve seen. All he did was drink the Koolaid and suck up to the right people. He was the perfect yes-man, and this reached down to almost all managers.

My boss who will not be named, again and again would tell us that Rob Denton, one of the original owners, said we should “do this” and “do that” and we would say “omg it makes NO sense, please explain A, B, and C to him. “And then he’d come back and tell us, after we thought he had gone to talk with him,” No, Rob wants in this way. Jeff agrees, this is what we’re going to do. Understood? ” They never actually talked back to Rob. We didn’t talk back to them.

Rob said jump, our leaders said, “How high?! And on who?”

So we shut up and did what we were told, by people too afraid to tackle real problems. It is a culture of fear, especially since Mark Jacobs was fired.

Oh, he left voluntarily you say? No, he was fired, and everything placed on his shoulders by those closest to him so they could divide his salary and annual bonus. I bet Rob is enjoying that sweet new Maserati he bought after leaving the knife in his partner of 15 years.

Want to know more? Keep reading. I can keep ranting.

Rob was never there during the development of Warhammer. We always joked about when his next weekly holiday was coming. (Answer? Next week!) Mark was not available, was way too head down trying to design his own contributions or whatever. Rob always handled things. We were told NOT to speak with Mark in person, never, or else we would be explaining to Rob.
The coup began long before Warhammer, and Jacobs did not even realize it.

And yet, this is common gossip in the company, and nobody in this industry seems to get it. So get it! Rob was responsible for the entire project, then blamed Mark when things went wrong.

Ah, but could not do it alone. No, he needed Jeff Hickman, promoted from customer service to produce the Warhammer project. Wait, let me let you have that sink in. The man running customer service, on the theory that the management of a large team of CSRs qualified him to run a game development project, was put in charge of a $50 million project with no previous experience.
And he needed Eugene Evans, the man who brought you the almost non-existent marketing campaign behind Warhammer. We could not even believe how bad they fucked up the marketing campaign. There was almost none. We slaved for years, and this is how we were rewarded for it by Eugene and the people of EA? Being told that Warhammer was not “worth” a lot of money spent on it? LOL. Now he’s in charge of Bioware Mythic.

Oh yeah, and he needed Paul Barnett. You know him as the crazy British dude that appears in random videos at EA to promote his latest bullshittery. We know him as the crazy British dude who we have no idea of how he still has a job. This man was supposed to be the savior of Warhammer’s vision and design. Now all he can do is promote his strange ideas about his little secret project web Ultima game that’s been almost universally criticized by all of us and focus groups. What’s that? You didn”t know Paul loves one of those old Ultima games sooooo much he’s making a literal copy of it for Facebook? Well, the cats outta the bag. Too bad it sucks ass.
So what do they all have in common? All of them failed, badly, in Warhammer, and each of them is in a position of authority in the new company, while the rest of us are facing pink slips. How do they sleep at night? They spin aruond, blame everything on Mark, divide his old salary between them, and never speak about it again. Oh, and they fuck us little guys as well.

Almost makes me congratulate them for having the balls, but after watching them work, it’s obvious they don’t have any. They’re cowards running scared trying to hide under the wing of Bioware, now that Rob has become a general manager of EA.
And Bioware? Don’t make me laugh. They’ve spent more money making the Old Republic than James Cameron spent on Avatar. Shit you not. More than $ 300 million! Can you believe that?

And you know what they’re most proud of? This is the kicker. They are most proud of the sound. No seriously. Something like a 20Gig installation, and most of it is voiceover work. That’s the best they have. The rest of the game is a joke. EA knows it and so does George Lucas,they’re panicking , and so most of Mythic has already been cannibalized to work in Austin on it because they can’t keep pushing back launch.

Old Republic will be one of the greatest failures in the history of MMOs from EA. Probably at the level of the Sims Online. We all know it too ……

Anyway, back to Warhammer. We shouldn’t have released when we did, everyone knows it. The game wasn’t done, but EA gave us a deadline and threatened the leaders of Mythic with pink slips. We slipped so many times, it had to go out.

We sold mor ethan a million boxes, and only had 300k subs a month later. Going down every since. It’s “stable” now, but guess what? Even Dark Age and Ultima have more subs than we have. How great is that? Games almost a decade make more money than our biggest project.

So there it is. Rewarding the incompetent. Firing the competent.

I say it anonymously so I can keep my next few paychecks coming.

So I’m a louse. A big fat EA louse.

Want some more questions answered? Ask away.



there's like a gazillion comments and questions and more dirt in the answers at the source:

https://ealouse.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/hello-world/

io Kukulcan
10-13-2010, 04:00 PM
lol, yup, that's EA.
hahaha

I feel kinda bad, my good buddy is flying out to Mythic tomorrow for a job interview as a concept artist.
Hmmm...

Kavik Brock
10-13-2010, 09:07 PM
And Bioware? Don’t make me laugh. They’ve spent more money making the Old Republic than James Cameron spent on Avatar. Shit you not. More than $ 300 million! Can you believe that?

And you know what they’re most proud of? This is the kicker. They are most proud of the sound. No seriously. Something like a 20Gig installation, and most of it is voiceover work. That’s the best they have. The rest of the game is a joke. EA knows it and so does George Lucas,they’re panicking , and so most of Mythic has already been cannibalized to work in Austin on it because they can’t keep pushing back launch.

Old Republic will be one of the greatest failures in the history of MMOs from EA. Probably at the level of the Sims Online. We all know it too ……


This really makes me sad. :( I've been seeing, what I believed to be, some great stuff about SWTOR. Crap, I hope they can pull it together, but now I'm feeling that sense of dread over the excitement level I've had for quite some time now.

Jorus
10-13-2010, 09:14 PM
This really makes me sad. :( I've been seeing, what I believed to be, some great stuff about SWTOR. Crap, I hope they can pull it together, but now I'm feeling that sense of dread over the excitement level I've had for quite some time now.

All the gameplay I've watched looks pretty terrible so far.

Kavik Brock
10-13-2010, 09:28 PM
All the gameplay I've watched looks pretty terrible so far.
I was looking at any video game play with the eye of, "It's still early, so there is time for some change." I haven't seen anything recently, though, and that may be for good reason.

I'll still check it out, but I certainly don't expect to be blown away. If anything, we'll all probably be very underwhelmed. Which is a bummer.

Edav Nomad
10-13-2010, 10:32 PM
Well so far there is no proof that this person even works for EA so it could all be just a bunch of BS. We still have til at least the Spring of 2011 to find out how the game will be. 300K subscribers for Warhammer Online is still pretty good compared to some of the MMOs that are still around. Last I heard EVE Online had around 300K subscribers.

Dakota Tebaldi
10-13-2010, 10:50 PM
This really makes me sad. :( I've been seeing, what I believed to be, some great stuff about SWTOR. Crap, I hope they can pull it together, but now I'm feeling that sense of dread over the excitement level I've had for quite some time now.

The guy seems to imply that he was on the Warhammer dev team, not the SWTOR dev team, so it's entirely possible that nothing he has to say about the latter is informed by facts.

Edav Nomad
10-13-2010, 11:20 PM
The guy seems to imply that he was on the Warhammer dev team, not the SWTOR dev team, so it's entirely possible that nothing he has to say about the latter is informed by facts.True and they probably keep the teams separate so that there is less chances of leaks. Now if it was someone who wasn't losing their job I would be more inclined to believe what is being said.

Jorus
10-13-2010, 11:21 PM
True and they probably keep the teams separate so that there is less chances of leaks. Now if it was someone who wasn't losing their job I would be more inclined to believe what is being said.

I wouldn't bet on that too much, also in MMO's there tends to be a lot of talent swapping.

Dakota Tebaldi
10-13-2010, 11:40 PM
No way; not with this. Guy's obviously a Warhammer fan and is cheesed off that his team was forced to release suckage while the company pours a fortune into a Star Wars game. The post is like 80% emo-nerdrage.

Mulch
10-14-2010, 04:04 AM
This really makes me sad. :( I've been seeing, what I believed to be, some great stuff about SWTOR. Crap, I hope they can pull it together, but now I'm feeling that sense of dread over the excitement level I've had for quite some time now.

how do you think those of us who enjoyed warhammer felt, especially the anticipation, and the delivery of awesome, fun, pvp with endless different ways to engage in it, while it lasted?

final tier it was obvious the game was unfinished, the pvp aspect that made it fun went away, not to say their wasnt pvp and sometimes awesome pvp, but it became secondary to their lousy excuse of "endgame" pvp

and it could have been much better, that was obvious, if it hadnt been rushed to deadline, it could have been epic

but it was obvious it was done to meet deadline and that was it, and the devs did the best they could with that (like i said, the earlier levels, when populated correctly, were some of the best pvp game experiences that i ever had)

The guy seems to imply that he was on the Warhammer dev team, not the SWTOR dev team, so it's entirely possible that nothing he has to say about the latter is informed by facts.

except he said ALL resources have been moved to star wars... to make release date... regsardless of the game being finished

he is warning of history repeating itself

I wouldn't bet on that too much, also in MMO's there tends to be a lot of talent swapping.

:word:

Dakota Tebaldi
10-14-2010, 08:42 AM
except he said ALL resources have been moved to star wars... to make release date... regsardless of the game being finished

I must insist. As a self-proclaimed provoker of nerdrage, I knows it when I sees it.

Jorus
10-14-2010, 09:26 AM
except he said ALL resources have been moved to star wars... to make release date... regsardless of the game being finished

I must insist. As a self-proclaimed provoker of nerdrage, I knows it when I sees it.

Dunno man, I've seen these for every major failed release including Duke.

Dakota Tebaldi
10-14-2010, 10:01 AM
Totally shipping next year! (http://www.gamepron.com/news/2010/09/03/duke-nukem-forever/)

Vivianne Draper
10-14-2010, 10:01 AM
Well just from what I know about "things that have gone on" the rant was at least half true. It would really surprise me if EA manages to put out a good MMO. They haven't been successful at that yet despite being the evil empire of online gaming. Remember that UO came to EA after release and DAOC was released and operated for years before Mythic was acquired by EA. Really if it isn't a sports game I just figure anything by EA is going to suck.

The power struggle stuff all rings true as does the funneling of resources to the Old Republic. They may yet pull this one through though -- especially after this rant. I wouldn't give up hope yet but Kav I would seriously lower expectations. Better to lower your expectations and be pleasantly surprised than be devastated by extreme suckage.

Dakota Tebaldi
10-14-2010, 10:06 AM
It would really surprise me if EA manages to put out a good MMO. They haven't been successful at that yet despite being the evil empire of online gaming.

Also consider that it's a Star Wars MMO they're working on. It's been done before, and it sucked.

Vivianne Draper
10-14-2010, 10:39 AM
Also consider that it's a Star Wars MMO they're working on. It's been done before, and it sucked.


I don't think that matters. SW sucked in the past for precisely the same reasons that it will suck in the future: politics. The world and roleplay is viable and there's no reason it shouldn't succeed except that incompetent designers with a lot of political clout but too full of themselves to learn what works keep being put in charge of the venues. Sad too because it could really make a lot of money if made right.

But name one MMO that EA has released that has done well.